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Joe and John Bishop - Life After Deaf

(22 Posts)
Serendipity22 Thu 22-Sept-22 22:09:23

Wow.... this was fantastic and powerful viewing.

JaneJudge Thu 22-Sept-22 22:11:09

I like his wife, what a strong woman

Greenfinch Thu 22-Sept-22 22:12:00

When and where was it on please?

Mollygo Thu 22-Sept-22 22:12:50

Great programme. Highlights the problems parents and children have in that situation.

JaneJudge Thu 22-Sept-22 22:13:59

itv grrenfinch, it has just been on

welbeck Thu 22-Sept-22 22:15:03

i found it rather dragged out.
could have been a half hour programme.
but that's not the participants' responsibility.
we don't hear much about the deaf community generally. so interesting.
no pun intended.
i tried to learn BSL but gave up. too hard, esp being tired after work. couldn't just put your head down and read up on it later. needed constant interaction. and grammar not directly equivalent.
admire those who learn it, esp as adults.

Greenfinch Thu 22-Sept-22 22:16:50

Thanks Jane I will try and catch it.

Auntieflo Thu 22-Sept-22 22:17:04

Greenfinch, it was on ITV at 9.00 pm.

Greenfinch Thu 22-Sept-22 22:24:24

Sorry that I missed it Auntieflo .It sounds interesting.

MerylStreep Thu 22-Sept-22 22:46:45

Greenfinch
You can get it on ITV plus.

BlueBelle Thu 22-Sept-22 22:48:14

It was a brilliant programme and very insightful not only for the son desperately trying to make sense of losing his hearing but for the Dad who wanted and needed to ‘fix everything’
I too tried to learn sign language but failed miserable
I didn’t find the programmevtoo long I was ‘in there’ for the whole hour and felt for both the dad and the son

welbeck Thu 22-Sept-22 22:52:56

the father seemed rather emotionally repressed for someone of his age. he seemed a bit distant re expressing feelings; i'd assumed that was more a thing of the past, but of course there are always individual differences.
i don't know him as a comedian. i watch mostly factual things, but i've gathered he is generally regarded as a good egg.

welbeck Thu 22-Sept-22 22:54:03

more sign language comedy on now, itv.

BlueBelle Thu 22-Sept-22 23:01:42

I love John Bishops comedy and it’s often overlooked but he’s also an excellent actor
I think he is a typical man well typical average man who are more practical than emotional and see life as them fixing problems. If they can’t fix it they often walk away from it

Congratulations to him for seeing the stumbling blocks in their relationship and doing something about it

rafichagran Thu 22-Sept-22 23:09:10

I thought it was very good.

Razzamatazz Fri 23-Sept-22 09:40:56

I thought it was very good too. I used to work at the RNIB and only learnt 'hello' for our deaf/blind clients which was all spelt out on the hand.

JaneJudge Fri 23-Sept-22 09:48:22

welbeck, unfortunately men/Fathers do seem still seem to struggle in acceptance of their child has a disability or illness. Unfortunately a lot become emotionally unavailable and I wondered why this is why he had separated with his wife at one point in the past (I'm not sure if it was mentioned in the program as I'm a bit busy in the evenings and become a bit concentration unavailable blush) Of course Mums struggle too but I think women deal with things better on a day to day basis. I know this sounds sexist, I'm trying not to make it sound sexist but it's my lived and witnessed experience.

Urmstongran Fri 23-Sept-22 09:58:27

Our Yorkshire Lass is a speech and language therapist. She has been learning BSL for the last year or so and yesterday I sent her a message about this programme.

BlueBelle Fri 23-Sept-22 11:16:09

Men and women are different and I don’t understand why we have to keep apologising and reassuring ourselves not to offend
We are wired differently Men aren’t usually (not always) so able to deal with emotional stuff they do metaphorically go into their man cave when something big happens emotionally and that’s a fact

No janejudge he had a separation from his wife when his son was 5 he didn’t become deaf until he was 15 what ever the reasons for the separation was they got over it and seem a devoted couple now

JaneJudge Fri 23-Sept-22 12:00:29

Ah okay blue belle smile yes they do seem devoted

muse Fri 23-Sept-22 12:15:04

Thank you for starting the thread Serendipity22.

I used to work in and amongst the deaf community. The primary school where I was deputy had an ERF unit (Enhanced Resource Facility) because as a state main stream school, our doors were open to totally or partially deaf children. As well as teaching, I managed the ERF unit.

A deaf teaching assistant taught me some basic signs and I tried to work my way to Level 1 BSL. However, the support in the classroom came from the teaching assistants who could sign and most of them were Level 3 BSL. Every class had deaf children so the bond between myself and these amazing TAs was very close. Every class had a 1/2 hr a week signing lesson from a teacher of the deaf and signing could be seen throughout the day, from assemblies to the classroom to the playground.

In my experience, signing helps them far more than relying on the written word. BSL has its own sentence structure that is unlike either English spoken language or written English.

There is still too much prejudice out there as to what deaf people can and can't do. I remember the delight on the children's faces at school when learning to play a wind instrument. It was also great to see and listen to Rose Ayling-Ellis, a deaf actor, on Strictly Come Dancing last year.

I'm a big fan of John Bishop and I've read there was a BSL stand up show on later after the documentary. I'll watch both tonight.

JaneJudge Fri 23-Sept-22 12:22:14

The stand up later on was good smile