Miriam Margoleys

I see this thread has gone silent. All her fans are now unable to justify her behaviour. That is disgraceful. I rest my case.

So is her behaviour acceptable, and would it be equally acceptable if it was a man? My point is that she is getting away with it because she's a woman. Any man behaving like this would be condemned by all and sundry. That's double standards.

I can't answer because I do find her shocking. The difference is that I don't condemn her for it and don't expect her to shut up.

I realise she is playing on her character and reputation to get work, and to make us question the standards we set for what we consider to be acceptable behaviour in elderly women.

MissAdventure

I've just finished watching all of Miriam's moments on Graham Norton, and she hasn't said anything tooo bad.

She has a very beautiful face, too, which I never realised.

You obviously missed the one when she said what she did in her knickers when I think it was Sir Lawrence Oliver she met. She used an expression that had to be explained by DD we were all sitting watching Sl included and it was very crude indeed nothing to do with incontinence.

Those who don't find her shocking, and who actually like her, need to say whether they would find the lewd behaviour and sexual innuendos acceptable if she were a man?

There are lots of posters who support her, so what's the answer?

Can't stand her, find her very vulgar

Can't stand the woman, find her very vulgar

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JaneJudge

I liked Bob Monkhouse

Me too.
Have you ever seen his joke books?
There are amazing

MissAdventure

The thing is, though, that a lot of people aren't shocked.

That in itself is shocking. ?

Well, she's got everyone talking about her
Again

?

Whitewave is right.

The thing is, though, that a lot of people aren't shocked.

MissAdventure

I didn't find her a bit show offy.
She merely talks about bodily functions, and that's fine by me.

She talks about more than just body functions. As mentioned, she comments on body parts, including of people present, and tells disgusting stories about her strange sexual encounters, all the time with that smirking smile on her face as if she has no idea that anyone would be shocked.

If a man behaved like that he would be in deep trouble.

bevisp1

No I didn’t, but going by other peoples comments I guess as usual she’s very rude. I’ve seen her on the real marigold hotel and her own travel programme, she does have some nice ways about her but it’s a shame with her language and her farting through the show, rude.

That wouldn't have much impact on the radio.

Well, she only regaled those who are interested in her tales.

I found people on here saying what fun lady someone or other was, on "I'm a celebrity" harder to stomach than anything the tiny bit I've watched of Miriam.

Miriam Margolyes has been a hero of mine for decades. Good on her for speaking her mind bluntly.

Young men.

The kind of men that actively pursue young women?

That wouldn't apply to Miriam, as a lesbian.

Although she regales us with tales of how she used to.

Well, what do you mean?

I don't even know what I mean, really, so I can't decide what you mean.

MissAdventure

You mean the ones who were mixing in circles with sex traffickers, and so on?
The kind of men that actively pursue young women?

That wouldn't apply to Miriam, as a lesbian.

No
That is not what I mean

I'd say it depended on the people whose parts were commented on.

Certainly, people are keen to hear Miriam's chat, from what I've seen. ..the beautifully hung young man didn't seem to object, and he looked well over the age of consent. (In any country)

MissAdventure, if the people who mixed in the circles you mention had only commented on women’s body parts on TV, it would have been less harmful certainly, but are you saying it would have been acceptable?

I can look at a young woman or man and judge them as beautiful.

It doesnt mean I'm lusting after them or trying to bed them.

Kate1949

Most people, including me, have strongly held beliefs. Most don't say things like 'people on here could learn from' whatever or whoever. It's patronising and condescending.

A big fat yes!

Callistemon21

So, if a man tells a woman guest on Graham Norton that she has beautiful breasts that's fine, then?

Oh good.
All those men who've been called lecherous, sex pests etc over the years must be heaving a sigh of relief.

Indeed! Quite surprising the behaviour that is judged acceptable by women if demonstrated by other women, but would be deemed totally unacceptable by those same women if the behaviour was perpetrated by men. Strange!

You mean the ones who were mixing in circles with sex traffickers, and so on?
The kind of men that actively pursue young women?

That wouldn't apply to Miriam, as a lesbian.