well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

But that could be the next tragedy. If Meghan wants out, what about custody of the children?
With a father with MH problems who wants no part of the RF firm, and has moved abroad, away from the family who he thinks has harmed him, or with a mother whose 3 claims to fame are acting, marrying the ‘ Spare’ and giving interviews about how she feels she has been treated.

It's all so melodramatic isn't it. Using his bare hands to dig in the earth and when recounting then 'phone call he can't have received about the death of the Queen's mother "the weather bright and warm, light slanting through my window, filled with vivid colour".

Callistemon21

^No wonder Chelsy and Cressida called it a day^.

Sensible young women.

However, all this may not have happened had he gone to live in Africa with Chelsy.

I quite agree re Chelsy and life in Africa. I recall we’ve talked about it before

It wouldn’t surprise me if Meghan is desperate to get out now.

I read Reddit quite a bit.
Going by the American posters on there, Harry has lost all the popularity that he previously enjoyed.
I’m reading time and time again
‘I used to really like Harry, but…’
In fact, I haven’t read one positive comment on the book from posters in the US.
He’s fooled no one.

In my opinion by revealing this in his book I do think he has sacrificed his and his family’s safety.

He now says it was "healing for him" - with clearly no thought for anyone else for whom it will be triggering and totally wrong. Personally I think he is backtracking over this particular comment because it did not receive the reaction he'd anticipated.

In fact, I notice he has backtracked over a few things - plus he has got many of his "truths" wrong - one being that his clear memory of being phoned at Eton to be told that the Queen Mother had died did not happen - he was on holiday skiing with Charles and William.

I wonder where they will be in a year's time when the dust has settled and there is nothing left to say.

Hence they want a reaction from the RF to provide more grist to the mill !

My daughter was offered a burial for her miscarriage at 13 weeks. It probably depends on the hospital. I was there and it wasn't like a funeral - just a minister, a little white box, and a corner of a churchyard with a wall with some moving words engraved on a plaque for all the babies buried there.

lemsip

he is now blaming the press for saying he killed 25 taliban when we heard it coming out of his own mouth.

I have just seen this in the news.

PH said that the number of kills was in his book, but it was not boasting and that taking one paragraph and publishing it out of context is what the press has been doing for years.

(I have read the translation of the relevant chapter, and it doesn’t appear that he was boasting, just trying to get the fact that he had taken human lives into some sort of context)

In my opinion by revealing this in his book I do think he has sacrificed his and his family’s safety.

He sat knocking back tequilas on The Late Show, lapping up the limelight and yet again, blaming everyone else for everything. The media, his family, blah, blah, blah. How anyone can feel sorry for him is beyond me, he's enjoying this, he knows what he's doing. Poor me, my awful life, he needs to wise up.

tickingbird

^Current C of E practice is most definitely to bury babies, at whatever age they died.^

Since when has this been the practice? My friend’s daughter lost a baby at 16 weeks and wasn’t given the choice of burial or any other means of disposal. It wasn’t offered.

My DiL miscarried 5 times, my darling sister 8 times neither were offered a burial for their babies, even the late term ones.

he is now blaming the press for saying he killed 25 taliban when we heard it coming out of his own mouth.

Chestnut

I think it's the revelation of all this personal stuff I find so dreadful, but more so when it's someone else's deeply personal stuff, your brother and your father. That is just unforgiveable. They must be so hurt. It's just not done to reveal such private family moments to outsiders, but to reveal it to the whole world? Just disgusting. I would be utterly broken by such betrayal. 😢😢

I agree.

All these years they must be concerned courtiers or the press will reveal private things to the world, and instead it turns out to be your own son/brother/brother in law/step son in law.

maddyone from what I can see if it will turn a brass farthing Harry will sell his and any other's souls to the devil! Enjoy NZ and your family, and give thanks you're not in the UK at the moment

Dear God, apparently Harry has shared an intimate piece of information about having sex with Meghan. He said he wants privacy, never mind him wanting privacy, I want him to want his privacy and to STOP relating all this twaddle about his supposed to be private life.

ENOUGH! STOP!

I wonder where they will be in a year's time when the dust has settled and there is nothing left to say. Will anyone have the slightest interest in them? Will they be outcasts in California? It will be interesting to see the longer term outcome.

Somewhere in the last day or so, no idea where, I read a piece written by an American, which said that it would not be physically possible to use one’s hands to dig under a banyan tree because of the complicated root system. I have no idea whether this is true, perhaps a USA Gran could enlighten.

tickingbird

^Current C of E practice is most definitely to bury babies, at whatever age they died.^

Since when has this been the practice? My friend’s daughter lost a baby at 16 weeks and wasn’t given the choice of burial or any other means of disposal. It wasn’t offered.

I don't know. I remember conducting a service for a very early miscarried baby some 20 years or so ago.

What I don't know is how the parents were informed that they could ask for this.

FannyCornforth

Joseanne I know that you will take this as it’s intended - your post at 18.02 was the most upper middle class thing that I’ve seen on here!

Cheers Fanny. I'm happy if people laugh with me, and even at me because it's all sharing stuff after all!
But not any personal details I hasten to add!

I think this is another of Harry’s lies. If he was given the foetus, which I doubt, he would have had to bury it very deep because of wild animals. Not a nice thought.

Current C of E practice is most definitely to bury babies, at whatever age they died.

Since when has this been the practice? My friend’s daughter lost a baby at 16 weeks and wasn’t given the choice of burial or any other means of disposal. It wasn’t offered.

That’s good to know, Ailidh. Thank you.

I'm no fan of M & H these days but I hope the floods will pass them by. Flooding is a terrible thing and I believe H is (or was) in New York. I hope M & children had help if they had to evacuate. Also animals to be thought about.
My son and family live in Northern California and we worry about wildfires each summer. They always have a 'grab bag' ready with important documents just in case.

They may not do this in the UK but they do in other countries.

Germanshepherdsmum

Looking at burial registers (family history), it’s clear that the CofE has, historically, been willing to bury unbaptised foetuses in consecrated ground - and if PH had asked would he have been refused? Fortunately I have no idea of current practice but this was a living creature known unto God, surely?

Current C of E practice is most definitely to bury babies, at whatever age they died.

Daddima

Germanshepherdsmum

That’s such an unnecessary revelation. Even the poor little baby is brought into it. Some things are deeply personal and should remain private. I expect burial in consecrated ground would have been possible; both are apparently Christian.

I don’t think burials are carried out at all for early miscarriages, and I find it strange that a hospital would give the bereaved parents the foetus to take away.

They don't. I doubt that it would even be legal in California where they have strict laws about the burial of human remains.
There was a similar story that Diana told about burying a close friends miscarried baby in secret in the grounds of Kensington palace.
I'm going to file this story under the same heading as the " we got married 3 days earlier" one.

FannyCornforth

Joseanne I know that you will take this as it’s intended - your post at 18.02 was the most upper middle class thing that I’ve seen on here!

In what way is going to the ballet upper middle class? Ditto with skiing trip…

Some of the comments on this site are hilarious!

Looking at burial registers (family history), it’s clear that the CofE has, historically, been willing to bury unbaptised foetuses in consecrated ground - and if PH had asked would he have been refused? Fortunately I have no idea of current practice but this was a living creature known unto God, surely?