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well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

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lemsip Sun 08-Jan-23 20:23:04

9pm-10.35 harry talks to tom bradby.

just putting it out there..... you don't have to watch! I don't care.

Joseanne Tue 10-Jan-23 10:32:55

You can always tell on GN when you're in the right. Posters immediately resort to personal attacks. That makes me feel a lot better, thanks, as i often end up in that category.

Mollygo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:33:10

Oh dear trisher. Vindicating yourself again and when you don’t like what somebody says.
You evidently feel like giving money to charity is sufficient vindication for everything that Harry has done. Perhaps I was wrong to presume that you would award the same courtesy to all the other people who do wrong things and give money away to charity. For you does it only count if it’s royalty?

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:33:24

Joseanne

I hear Ronaldo gives enormous amounts to charity, builds hospitals in Portugal. It isn't unusual for those who have pots of money to do so, often quietly and under the radar.

Ah so the discussion has shifted from they are. just in it for the money to others give to charity.
Can't see what that has to do with it

Callistemon21 Tue 10-Jan-23 10:33:42

Joseanne

^You can always tell on GN when you're in the right. Posters immediately resort to personal attacks.^ That makes me feel a lot better, thanks, as i often end up in that category.

👍 😀

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 10:34:12

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:37:07

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Mollygo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:38:49

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yes GSM but that doesn’t count for . . .

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:39:53

Yes Mollygo, we mustn’t make comparisons as they are irrelevant.

Oreo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:40:10

Glorianny

eazybee

'..... the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement'.

Unforgiveable to use Harry's problems to attack, again, a four year old child.

The point about the scapegoat child is that it is never the child's fault so I'm not attacking Louis. The fault lies with the dysfunctional family who instead of tackling their problems choose to blame one member.

What you say makes no sense.
Louis’s family are not blaming him.Ok so the media like to get a pic of a child either fidgeting or misbehaving at a royal occasion, so what?
Why are you pushing this scapegoat child thing onto Louis? He’s a young child and sometimes plays up, we’ve all been there!

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:41:39

OnwardandUpward

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

It's the family choosing to expose him to the public view .

Can't see what my memories have to do with it.
All 4 year olds misbehave most of them aren't sitting in front of a huge crowd and don't have their actions recorded for posterity.
Having seen the damage done to his brother through public exposure throughout his childhood you would imagine William would be a little more protective.
How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

Oreo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:41:45

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yeah, a pittance for sure since he got 20 mill dollars as an advance for books.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:42:12

He seems like a pretty normal four year old from what I’ve seen - which is no more or less than others here have seen.

Oreo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:44:11

FGS Glorianny he will no doubt laugh and say ‘I was a right little monkey’ or similar.
They are a family and of course choose to have him with them, as a royal child he will become used to boring events given time.

Callistemon21 Tue 10-Jan-23 10:44:57

How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

And how would he feel if he was not allowed to go to events such as his Great-Granny's concert because he might misbehave but his brother and sister are allowed?

"I'm just the third child, the spare to the spare, kept away from all the fun" he might moan in future.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:46:54

I don’t buy the claim that H has been damaged by public exposure throughout his childhood. All the senior royals have been the subject of public interest throughout their lives.

Mollygo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:47:05

Yes -he appears to do what most 4 year olds do. My DGC love to look at videos of them when they were younger.
It’s only if clips of Louis are turned into something unacceptable by public criticism that they will be problematic.

Callistemon21 Tue 10-Jan-23 10:47:15

Germanshepherdsmum

He seems like a pretty normal four year old from what I’ve seen - which is no more or less than others here have seen.

Yes, he seems normal, not an automaton as some would like to see.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:47:27

Mollygo

Germanshepherdsmum

H will receive a huge amount for his book and the associated interviews - what he’s reported to be giving to charity is a pittance. Have you read posts by Maywalk, who writes for publication? She gives all the proceeds, after costs of publication, to charity.

Yes GSM but that doesn’t count for . . .

Does Maywalk have huge security costs? Has her life been threatened?
Do her profits benefit charities to the tune of millions?
I'm sure it's very good of her. But once again it is nothing to do with the fact that here are inaccuracies on these threads about the profits on the books.
Just try admitting that money for those charities is a good thing. You will feel so much better..

tickingbird Tue 10-Jan-23 10:47:45

Glorianny I fully admit to saying Louis would probably cause trouble, that's what scapegoat children often do. The point is that the trouble is not their fault it is the dysfunctional family's fault. Treating the child does nothing. He (or she) is simply replaced.
So you have decided that Kate and William are dysfunctional parents and that Louis is their scapegoat child? Based on what evidence? A 3-4 yr old boy fidgeting and getting restless at a long, boring (for a child) public event? What utter nonsense. It’s typical behaviour and there’s been absolutely nothing to suggest his family scapegoat him!

I believe your post was deleted and I don’t have time to trawl through past threads and if it’s deleted it won’t be there anyway!

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 10:49:13

Glorianny

OnwardandUpward

What if it's not Louis's family scapegoating him but members of the public labelling him?

Do you even remember being 4?

It's the family choosing to expose him to the public view .

Can't see what my memories have to do with it.
All 4 year olds misbehave most of them aren't sitting in front of a huge crowd and don't have their actions recorded for posterity.
Having seen the damage done to his brother through public exposure throughout his childhood you would imagine William would be a little more protective.
How will Louis feel when the clips of his 4 year old behaviour are played back to him in his teens?

The same as any child.

He's not doing anything wrong. He's just being his age.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:53:24

I don’t feel bad Glorianny, so have no need to feel better. Maywalk is an ordinary widowed lady in her 90s who might well benefit from the proceeds of her writing. I have not seen inaccuracies here about the profits from H’s books. The fact remains that the charities are receiving a tiny proportion. Try considering the difference between Maywalk’s generosity and H’s, and admit that it’s vast.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:54:13

Germanshepherdsmum

I don’t buy the claim that H has been damaged by public exposure throughout his childhood. All the senior royals have been the subject of public interest throughout their lives.

So didn't you hear him say that the best thing about being in the army was that the press couldn't get to him?

I do think a lot of the repudiation of public exposure damaging children stems from the realisation, that demanding royal children become public figures, is the fault of ordinary people who buy the papers, and think they have a right to see them.

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 10:56:25

Do you not think W&K have enough to deal with at the moment having all the nonsense from H? Obviously not since you condemn their parenting and their youngest child.

(While completely ignoring that H has put his actually at risk from the Taliban and admits to taking drugs still.)

Thankfully we don't still live in an age where kids "should be seen and not heard".

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:56:33

I know what H says. There’s a difference between what he says and what I believe. And I have never bought newspapers to read about the RF, nor have I ever bought a‘celebrity magazine’, so no guilt here.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:57:28

tickingbird

Glorianny I fully admit to saying Louis would probably cause trouble, that's what scapegoat children often do. The point is that the trouble is not their fault it is the dysfunctional family's fault. Treating the child does nothing. He (or she) is simply replaced.
So you have decided that Kate and William are dysfunctional parents and that Louis is their scapegoat child? Based on what evidence? A 3-4 yr old boy fidgeting and getting restless at a long, boring (for a child) public event? What utter nonsense. It’s typical behaviour and there’s been absolutely nothing to suggest his family scapegoat him!

I believe your post was deleted and I don’t have time to trawl through past threads and if it’s deleted it won’t be there anyway!

You can believe what you like. I haven't had a post deleted. As I said autistic isn't a term I would use.