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well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

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lemsip Sun 08-Jan-23 20:23:04

9pm-10.35 harry talks to tom bradby.

just putting it out there..... you don't have to watch! I don't care.

eazybee Tue 10-Jan-23 09:55:41

'..... the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement'.

Unforgiveable to use Harry's problems to attack, again, a four year old child.

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 09:57:18

Every family is dysfunctional in their own way.

Dickens Tue 10-Jan-23 09:58:57

I think Harry's biggest problem is that he doesn't have the intellectual capacity to be objective. Difficult, obviously, when you are emotionally invested. But at some point, I think we all realise, in our turmoil, there comes a time when you have to stand back and take stock - and possibly see yourself as others see you.
At the moment, he's too self-absorbed, and if he continues like this, it won't serve him well.

I've no expertise nor qualifications in psychology or mental health, this is purely a 'gut' feeling. The feeling that he should now explore his inner-self and his 'issues' in private, and absorb any advice he's being given without sharing it with the rest of the world,

merlotgran Tue 10-Jan-23 10:01:02

Louis will be fine. He has loving parents and sensible, hands on Middleton grandparents.

Maria Borallo has been their nanny since George was born. He’s about as secure as any high profile child can be.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:08:33

OnwardandUpward

Why? We aren't scapegoating . We are suggesting help. There is a difference between being concerned and discussing MH help and scapegoating someone.

At no point have I blamed H for the wrong doings of others (that would count as scapegoating) but I have discussed things he has done, which are factual and therefore not scapegoating.

The scapegoat child is nothing to do with your actions it is a common phenomena in the dysfunctional family. Basically one child is made the focus of all that is wrong in the family, they are the person who needs treatment, they are at fault. The interesting thing is that if the scapegoat leaves the family or is removed another child takes on the role. Arguably the RF have been scapegoating members for a long time. Harry has removed himself, so who will they use next?

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 10:09:41

I do know about it. I was scapegoated.

Hopefully Prince Andrew! (if they need to use anyone)

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:10:35

For all of those commenting about his desire for money you do know that £1.6mill is going to Sentebale from this and £300,000 to Well Child. So arguably it is a philanthropic venture.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:13:08

merlotgran

Louis will be fine. He has loving parents and sensible, hands on Middleton grandparents.

Maria Borallo has been their nanny since George was born. He’s about as secure as any high profile child can be.

But at 4 he's pictured in the media misbehaving. This coincides with Harry leaving the RF. Coincidence?

Joseanne Tue 10-Jan-23 10:13:26

merlotgran

Louis will be fine. He has loving parents and sensible, hands on Middleton grandparents.

Maria Borallo has been their nanny since George was born. He’s about as secure as any high profile child can be.

And a close relationship with his other (3?) Pippa cousins

Joseanne Tue 10-Jan-23 10:14:57

Glorianny

merlotgran

Louis will be fine. He has loving parents and sensible, hands on Middleton grandparents.

Maria Borallo has been their nanny since George was born. He’s about as secure as any high profile child can be.

But at 4 he's pictured in the media misbehaving. This coincides with Harry leaving the RF. Coincidence?

And Charlotte misbehaving on the boat?
All 4 year olds have their moments.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:15:15

eazybee

'..... the "Scapegoat Child" and the dysfunctional family, wonder about Harry, and if Louis is to be his replacement'.

Unforgiveable to use Harry's problems to attack, again, a four year old child.

The point about the scapegoat child is that it is never the child's fault so I'm not attacking Louis. The fault lies with the dysfunctional family who instead of tackling their problems choose to blame one member.

tickingbird Tue 10-Jan-23 10:17:42

The scapegoat child is nothing to do with your actions it is a common phenomena in the dysfunctional family. Basically one child is made the focus of all that is wrong in the family, they are the person who needs treatment, they are at fault

Glorianny. You had a post deleted not long ago for diagnosing Louis as autistic. You also stated he’d cause trouble for the RF.

Yesterday you were very disparaging about posters diagnosing Harry as having MH problems. Your egregious hypocrisy is pretty staggering. No wonder you’re so supportive of Harry’s behaviour because he’s a hypocrite too.

Sparklefizz Tue 10-Jan-23 10:17:45

Harry has removed himself, so who will they use next?

Actually Harry was very popular and much-liked. It's since he removed himself that his behaviour has gone downhill.

Joseanne Tue 10-Jan-23 10:19:44

So are you saying Glorianny that it is fair game to criticise the parenting skills of ANY father or mother?

Sparklefizz Tue 10-Jan-23 10:21:40

The story about him using all the laughing gas to calm his nerves during Archie’s birth so there was none left for Meghan is the stuff of sit-coms so either it’s not to be taken seriously or he really does have an addictive personality.

Actually I remember when he came out to see the Press (after the announcement that there would not be an announcement) - he was very hyped and giggly which I particularly noticed. I thought it was joy over the birth of Archie, but from his recent story about this, I think it was due to the laughing gas.

OnwardandUpward Tue 10-Jan-23 10:22:19

Louis is 4.

Anyone who has had a 4 year old and would like to take them to Royal Events? Not me, ha!

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:22:36

tickingbird

^The scapegoat child is nothing to do with your actions it is a common phenomena in the dysfunctional family. Basically one child is made the focus of all that is wrong in the family, they are the person who needs treatment, they are at fault^

Glorianny. You had a post deleted not long ago for diagnosing Louis as autistic. You also stated he’d cause trouble for the RF.

Yesterday you were very disparaging about posters diagnosing Harry as having MH problems. Your egregious hypocrisy is pretty staggering. No wonder you’re so supportive of Harry’s behaviour because he’s a hypocrite too.

Could you link to the post where I said Louis was autistic please. It is a term I seldom use, preferring the more widely used "neuro-diverse". I did at one time use "on the spectrum" but as most people now reject that term I am trying to use the term neuro-diverse. It is quite sometime since I used the term autistic.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:24:54

Presumably a link to a deleted post is impossible?

Mollygo Tue 10-Jan-23 10:25:06

For all of those commenting about his desire for money you do know that £1.6mill is going to Sentebale from this and £300,000 to Well Child. So arguably it is a philanthropic venture.
vs on their behalf trisher? Well done you. I hope it makes you feel better.
Reassuring to know that if I talked about killing people in an offhand manner, claimed things as true, which I later retracted, but gave away money to charities would you think that vindicated my actions.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:25:41

Glorianny

tickingbird

The scapegoat child is nothing to do with your actions it is a common phenomena in the dysfunctional family. Basically one child is made the focus of all that is wrong in the family, they are the person who needs treatment, they are at fault

Glorianny. You had a post deleted not long ago for diagnosing Louis as autistic. You also stated he’d cause trouble for the RF.

Yesterday you were very disparaging about posters diagnosing Harry as having MH problems. Your egregious hypocrisy is pretty staggering. No wonder you’re so supportive of Harry’s behaviour because he’s a hypocrite too.

Could you link to the post where I said Louis was autistic please. It is a term I seldom use, preferring the more widely used "neuro-diverse". I did at one time use "on the spectrum" but as most people now reject that term I am trying to use the term neuro-diverse. It is quite sometime since I used the term autistic.

I fully admit to saying Louis would probably cause trouble, that's what scapegoat children often do. The point is that the trouble is not their fault it is the dysfunctional family's fault. Treating the child does nothing. He (or she) is simply replaced.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:27:09

The money going to charity is a drop in the ocean - so hardly a philanthropic venture.

Joseanne Tue 10-Jan-23 10:29:19

I hear Ronaldo gives enormous amounts to charity, builds hospitals in Portugal. It isn't unusual for those who have pots of money to do so, often quietly and under the radar.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:29:45

Mollygo

^For all of those commenting about his desire for money you do know that £1.6mill is going to Sentebale from this and £300,000 to Well Child. So arguably it is a philanthropic venture.^
vs on their behalf trisher? Well done you. I hope it makes you feel better.
Reassuring to know that if I talked about killing people in an offhand manner, claimed things as true, which I later retracted, but gave away money to charities would you think that vindicated my actions.

Why would it make me feel anything?
I'm not emotionally involved with people I don't even know.
It is simply a fact and one which contradicts all the assertions that this was purely a project for personal profit.

You can always tell on GN when you're in the right. Posters immediately resort to personal attacks.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 10-Jan-23 10:31:39

I agree Joseanne. I remember that nobody knew about George Michael’s large charitable donations until after his death.

Glorianny Tue 10-Jan-23 10:31:47

Germanshepherdsmum

The money going to charity is a drop in the ocean - so hardly a philanthropic venture.

So it certainly belies the "they are doing it for personal gain" doesn't it?
I appreciate it rather undermines the prejudices exhibited on these threads