well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

Glorianny

Well amazing how many GNers are experts on therapy, body language and mental health issues.
If Harry had grinned all the way through the interview he would have been criticised for not taking things seriously. Have a serious face and he can't be happy.
He stated very clearly why he has written Spare and made the documentary, so that he can move on. He may have said things that don't suit some peoples perceptions, his truth may not be someone else's. But anyone with any knowledge of people's experiences and how they report them will know that no two people see any event exactly the same. It's his life story, he has a right to tell it. And those people condemning him and trying to pretend they are concerned about him would do better confronting their own prejudices and consider what it is in them Harry has disturbed.

oh get over yourself .

well an in the book he states he took drugs including 'cocaine and mushrooms' after which he was talking to a bin that talked back to him!

I think Harry called it a "looking back project" as I posted 6 minutes after the end of the interview.
A sort of post mortem if you like or retrospective.
But that is not an excuse to spend an hour complaining and whinging, nor an opportunity to lecture your family on what they could have done better. Unless you are prepared to admit some of your own failings too, and I mean in communication not just a few misdemeanours, there is no going forward and yes, I too fear for him.

What is his truth? He keeps changing it. My grandma always said a liar has to have a good memory. He has admitted to taking drugs that have permitted him to see the truth, that this other drug inspired world is “just as real and twice as beautiful.” That is very worrying. It is possible for drugs to damage a person’s brain and that could be another explanation for his behaviour or a partial factor.

Glorianny

Well amazing how many GNers are experts on therapy, body language and mental health issues.
If Harry had grinned all the way through the interview he would have been criticised for not taking things seriously. Have a serious face and he can't be happy.
He stated very clearly why he has written Spare and made the documentary, so that he can move on. He may have said things that don't suit some peoples perceptions, his truth may not be someone else's. But anyone with any knowledge of people's experiences and how they report them will know that no two people see any event exactly the same. It's his life story, he has a right to tell it. And those people condemning him and trying to pretend they are concerned about him would do better confronting their own prejudices and consider what it is in them Harry has disturbed.

Pot kettle black Glorianny. Your encyclopaedic knowledge of, and insight into the behaviour of the Royal family has amazed me on this thread.

What disturbs me Glorianny is all the rambling, contradictory nonsense he was spouting. Even his pal, Tom Bradby, looked incredulous at times.

GSM. I don't think your remarks are beyond the pale. I too am very concerned about Harry's health.

He looks ill and exhausted. And yes I'm afraid he does look as if he is still self medicating.

He is isolated and alone. Yes probably self inflicted but even so the man desperately needs help and support. Clearly he's not getting it.

We don't use terms like "nervous breakdown" any more but I think if he continues to push himself with all these interviews etc then some kind of collapse is inevitable.

He needs rest, peace and quiet and proper psychiatric help, not Californian psychobabble. He needs people around him who actually care, not a bunch of self serving syphocants.

The cuff links were two Cs for Charles. Look at any cuff links with initials and there will be two of whatever the person’s initials are
So the fact that they were given to him by Camilla had no significance whatsoever? I bet even Charles didn't try that one!!

Well amazing how many GNers are experts on therapy, body language and mental health issues.
If Harry had grinned all the way through the interview he would have been criticised for not taking things seriously. Have a serious face and he can't be happy.
He stated very clearly why he has written Spare and made the documentary, so that he can move on. He may have said things that don't suit some peoples perceptions, his truth may not be someone else's. But anyone with any knowledge of people's experiences and how they report them will know that no two people see any event exactly the same. It's his life story, he has a right to tell it. And those people condemning him and trying to pretend they are concerned about him would do better confronting their own prejudices and consider what it is in them Harry has disturbed.

OnwardandUpward

Calendargirl

Has Charles ever actually said he never loved Diana though?

I know there was the ‘whatever love is’ comment at their engagement, which must have been devastating for her to hear, but am sure he did have feelings for her.

How many of us have thought we ‘loved’ someone, only to realise there are different definitions of love?

I imagine when Charles was at Diana’s bedside, just after William was born, he felt he really loved her then.

Whether he still felt the same pull after the birth of Harry a couple of years later, who knows?

And yes, his heart probably always belonged to Camilla, but that doesn’t mean that in his own way he didn’t love the mother of his two children, at least in the early years.

Charles obviously had to have had an attraction to Diana in order to produce kids with her, he may have cared for her in the beginning as she was a pretty girl, sweet and innocent- but it doesn't mean he loved her or was willing to sacrifice for her, or be faithful long term. He always had Camilla on the back burner, waiting until his job of fathering kids was done, it seems.

Wearing her cufflinks on their honeymoon is an atrocious thing to do. She was always on his mind. That's love. Diana was used, sadly.

The cuff links were two Cs for Charles. Look at any cuff links with initials and there will be two of whatever the person’s initials are.

Charles Spencer wrote an article not long ago. When Harry brought Meghan to meet the family, prior to the engagement,
she complained loudly that the house was old and musty.

Harry tried to get the family to agree that Meghan was the reincarnation of his mother and they disagreed. It didn’t go well and his uncle also suggested they take a while to get to know each other better.

Finally he might come first in something, he will be delighted.

Germanshepherdsmum

It’s the opposite of unkind to express fears for someone’s welfare, surely?

Well, I was worrying that these attacks could disturb the mental health of other members of the Royal Family.

It is a very unkind and damaging thing he is doing and it is not going to help him either.

So, unkind? I think Harry wins first prize for that.

GSM.

Me, tickingbird..

Don’t worry GSM. True colours and all that. There was nothing wrong with your comment and there has been plenty regarding concern for Harry’s well-being.

I'm not a person who reports, normally. But this time I'm making an exception


You often tell us you are reporting other posters.

volver

Was it? Well, tough. This is a very unkind thread.

Why’s that? Is it because you aren’t managing to dominate the discussion?

I suppose someone will arrive to support you soon enough!

Me, tickingbird.

It’s the opposite of unkind to express fears for someone’s welfare, surely?

I agree completely with your last post FannyC.

Was it? Well, tough. This is a very unkind thread.

Reporting who??

He has written a book outlining his drug taking and spoken on film saying the same. I don’t know who you’re reporting but you seem to be rattled by something volver.

That was rather unkind volver.

Post references deleted post Talk guidelines.

volver
H is causing all sorts of ructions about the royal family.

The more the merrier, as far as I'm concerned

GSM’s comment isn’t despicable but yours is. It’s obvious to anyone with half a brain that Harry is in a bad way and isn’t getting the help he needs. You’re happy about that because you’re so full of loathing for the RF and happy to see him sacrificed on the altar of republicanism. Just despicable.

Thankfully you won’t get your wish vis a vis the downfall of the RF but Harry is a different matter. Shame on you.

Yep, I agree too Shep and Doodledog

I haven’t had a microscopic fraction of what Harry has gone / is going through, and I’ve had my wobbles.

I find it difficult to believe that we are the only ones who have contemplated this atrocious thought regarding Harry.

It’s the elephant in the room.
Poor Harry. Poor the lot of them.
It really is the strongest argument for a republic

He just can’t let go. If he was my dh I’d be very worried.