well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

Thanks Doodledog. I appreciate that. I didn’t mean to cross a line. His eyes worried me last night. I hope he’s not continuing to take drugs, which like alcohol do not help beyond providing a brief escape from reality.

And he just keeps going. On and on and on.
Interview after interview.
He must have almost driven himself mad writing the book, revisiting everything.
And now he is repeating it again. Over and over.

No wonder he can’t keep tabs on things.
I think that he has now got a rather fragile grip on reality and ‘his (and everyone else’s) truth’
I was shocked to be reminded just now that the Oprah interview was nearly two years ago.

His head must be scrambled.

I wouldn’t touch his therapist with a barge pole.
Like nadateturbe said, he needs help. Pronto

FWIW, I don't think your comment is out of order, GSM. I thought he looked haunted, and he has a history of substance abuse and MH problems. I'm not sure that it would take much to push him over the edge, and he has certainly laid himself open to a lot of criticism, whilst ensuring that his family is unlikely to be there to support him.

I wish he would get better therapy and lie low for a while without rekindling any arguments, but I'm guessing that's unlikely. I can't believe I wish anything, really - I'm normally not interested in the RF at all, but he seems so vulnerable.

FannyCornforth

OnwardandUpward

Certainly he used to look so happy photographed with W&K, they all seemed so natural together.

They really, really did.
Out of all of this debacle this is the thing that makes me question things the most.
There was an almost tangible bond between Harry and Kate.
You could see, over and over, that they loved each other’s company

It certainly does seem as though his whole outlook has changed beyond belief. How can someone turn on their family so much and say such awful things? If I were Charles or William I would be absolutely heartbroken. In fact I am really heartbroken for them. 😥

Yes Fanny, I agree. Would Meghan have liked that, maybe felt threatened by it?

Exactly Chestnut. He has broken away from his old life in which he had long standing friends. I would be circumspect about friendships, if any, forged since he moved away. Certainly either nobody counselled him against all these revelations, or he ignored them.

OnwardandUpward

Certainly he used to look so happy photographed with W&K, they all seemed so natural together.

They really, really did.
Out of all of this debacle this is the thing that makes me question things the most.
There was an almost tangible bond between Harry and Kate.
You could see, over and over, that they loved each other’s company

I’m sorry we disagree volver. He has caused a huge and perhaps irreversible rift with his blood family. He has mental health issues. If you find my opinion and the sharing of my own problems offensive I apologise. Suicide continues to be a taboo subject, as does the possibility that anyone might see no other way forward.

Certainly he used to look so happy photographed with W&K, they all seemed so natural together.

GSM I agree he is pretty isolated with no family (except 'er indoors) and how many true friends are standing by him, if indeed he has any true friends after all this. By that I mean people he can really talk to rather than the H&M sycophants he may be surrounded by.

He sure doesn’t seem to have gained anything by seeing a therapist, in fact he was happier before ever seeing one, and before meeting MM.
Now they are both in the psycho bubble of Montecito it’s not going to improve things.
Mooning about the place in jeans and bare feet and contemplating his navel.

Can someone explain to me exactly what the purpose of the Netflix show/book/interview is?
As far as I know, they wanted a ‘half in, half out’ membership of the Royal Family, and to spend half their time in the UK. When told this was not acceptable, they decided to move to USA and become financially independent.
So, why the need to tell ‘their truth’ now? Is it for revenge, or to try to force the ‘institution’ to let them back in? Why the need to try to curry favour with the British people? I really don’t see what they hope to achieve ( apart from the dosh, obviously). None of the revelations have been exactly earth shattering, and I really can’t see the point of them ( again, apart from the dosh).

Well I believe that saying you can see anybody taking their own life, on an open forum, when that person has already experienced suicidal ideation in their own family, is despicable. Especially when said completely out of nowhere with no corroboration.

There are some lines that should not be crossed and I think you have crossed one of them.

They received the ripple of hope award for their ‘activism on racial justice and mental health’ so I read.
Mental health, because they speak about nothing else, but racial equality? This can only be because they lied by omission, they implied that there was racism within the RF.

No, not despicable, volver. I have suffered from depression for many years and I have been close to suicide so I’m not talking out of my backside. If his only supports are M and a therapist who doesn’t seem to be helping him much, then I fear for his future. In the latest US interview a clip from which was shown on the news today he says he isn’t in touch with his father or his brother (unsurprisingly). That does not bode well. He believes reconciliation is possible - I would be very surprised.

He is I believe in a downward spiral and needs love and understanding from his family.

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Germanshepherdsmum

It would not surprise me if H were to take his own life one day. He has made such a mess of things, is not in touch with his family and is now being caught out on the lies that he and M have told. I have already said I don’t see this ending well. I didn’t like what I saw in his eyes last night.

Oh my god.

What a thing to say.

That's quite despicable, GSM

Callistemon21

^Harry crossed the Rubicon with his claim of "kills".^

Oh dear, I have a really bad feeling about all this.

He crossed the Rubicon aboard the Runaway Train.

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Anybody find it rather suspect that the paper that had the “accidentally released” book was The Guardian of all papers?

The republican’s secret weapon ie Harry, isn’t the H bomb they thought he’d be. It all seems to have backfired

Harry crossed the Rubicon with his claim of "kills".

Oh dear, I have a really bad feeling about all this.

The Runaway train was in reference to Harry's tongue. As in, he keep changing his story.

I’m only interested in the transcripts of the interviews, not on whatever spin the press put on them.

Callistemon21

Germanshepherdsmum

Just watching lunchtime news on BBC. H’s allegation that Camilla had become close to the press as part of her change of image, and that this had led to stories being planted, was discussed. It was pointed out that H’s claim that she had briefed the press about her first meeting with William was untrue - her private secretary had mentioned it to someone, who then told someone else, and the PS was so mortified that he was the source that he resigned. Slurs against Camilla will not endear him to Charles.

Slurs against Camilla will not endear him to Charles.

No, they most certainly won't.
Has Harry crossed the Rubicon with those remarks about Camilla?

Harry crossed the Rubicon with his claim of "kills".

I doubt he did himself any favours with his slurs to Camilla either. Crossed that stream, casting his die twice, it seems.