well, here it is, Harry interview itv 9pm

Its true, there is as much dysfunction in the middle classes but they are better at hiding it.

While its universally accepted that H has suffered much, you would hope that having suffered would make you determined that no one else would suffer. Instead, he seems to be dragging them down with him to where he is. Sad!

Harry has cheerfully stated that he has taken a variety of drugs and up until very recently was smoking cannabis every day - perhaps he still is..... whatever. I think his brain has been damaged.

As pointed out online earlier in the week, those drugs are illegal in the UK and he has been breaking the law for the last 30 years!

William has had the same amount of trauma as Harry, and carries a much greater burden than Harry, but the Middletons gave him a good family grounding in his early 20s.

Harry is jealous that he wasn't the first born, and Meghan is jealous of Kate. M wanted to be Queen Bee.

There may be three books to come, but I doubt if there will be much appetite for them, as it is unlikely the media will hype them in the way they have this one. Plus some people will actually have read his first offering.

Harry has shot his bolt as the sympathy many felt for him due to his mother's death is evaporating in the constant deluge of self-pity, despite his marriage, children and the new life he has chosen.

My middle son lost his wife and mother of his 3 sons in 2018. That was when I joined GN. One Sunday morning the younger two (6 and 3) came bouncing into their bedroom and my son got up with them and told her to have a lie in while he did their breakfast. Oldest boy was 11. When my son went back upstairs an hour later she was dead. Those boys witnessed my son performing CPR and shouting for them to fetch the neighbour. She had suffered a spontaneous brain haemorrhage and died instantly. Needless to say there has been much trauma. I can only hope and pray they don’t go on to have MH problems in later years but it’s a worry. I have sympathy for Harry but it’s wearing very thin with his behaviour. William suffered too and has the burden of being the next King. As far as I’m concerned Harry had the easier time.

Unfortunately H is stuck in the past and has not managed to move forwards into a positive, thriving mentality. He is stuck in a victim mentality and is trying to take others down to where he is. Thankfully, with the grounding effects of the Middleton's I am sure W will not be reduced to H's level.

H needs a Priest, a Dr and a Therapist to help him overcome the massive chip on his shoulder and find a positive , healing way forwards.

tickingbird

My middle son lost his wife and mother of his 3 sons in 2018. That was when I joined GN. One Sunday morning the younger two (6 and 3) came bouncing into their bedroom and my son got up with them and told her to have a lie in while he did their breakfast. Oldest boy was 11. When my son went back upstairs an hour later she was dead. Those boys witnessed my son performing CPR and shouting for them to fetch the neighbour. She had suffered a spontaneous brain haemorrhage and died instantly. Needless to say there has been much trauma. I can only hope and pray they don’t go on to have MH problems in later years but it’s a worry. I have sympathy for Harry but it’s wearing very thin with his behaviour. William suffered too and has the burden of being the next King. As far as I’m concerned Harry had the easier time.

So sorry for your loss and for your sons and GC
What a terrible shock and tragedy for them. I hope they will have had the support needed to process their grief. I know there are charities that help with this, although I can't think what they are called.

Yes I think H had an easier role too, although it sounds like he was spoiled by Diana as she tried to over compensate for him being second born.

So sad, tickingbird.

It did occur to me that there are many comments on this thread which allow members to express their grief over things like - estrangement, MH problems, early death of a parent, suicide etc - which might have actually happened to them. I think in a way it offers a channel to express their sorrow, and it hurts no one. I do feel, however, that Harry's way is destructive.

I do feel Harry is destructive as well. Here below is a comment which I copied and pasted from the DM because it actually is what I think my estranged son might have been doing.

"They have set themselves up as victims, knowing that whatever the Palace does or doesn't say or do, they can paint themselves as the ones who are suffering. H has played a blinder really, he either forces his father to cut ties or forces his father to bring them closer on their terms"

So, the choice is as an older parent -be controlled- or lose contact.

I am so sorry tickingbird. 💐

tickingbird My heart goes out to you and to your family. I am so sorry. Life can be so cruel.

tickingbird I'm so sorry for your loss, that must have been shocking for you all.

tickingbird .

tickingbird, I'm so sorry too

Tickingbird

Sending you (((hugs))) tickingbird 🌸

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tickingbird

Thank you all so much for your kind words. I do take them to heart xx

tickingbird so very sorry for you all.

Oh, tbird, I’m so sorry to hear of this. So very hard for you all x

Tickingbird, thank you for telling us about this terrible traumatic loss in your family. Such a terrible thing for you all

tickingbird what a tragedy for you all.

So sorry to hear about the tragedy in your family *Tickingbird"

Poor Harry seems to think that he is the only person who has ever experienced family tragedy. Poor Harry.

Tickingbird, so very sorry. Such a dreadful thing.

There is a third way, which Charles and the royal family are following, that is, ignoring Harry's tantrums while keeping the door open. The invitation to the coronation is still there. Sympathy for them is not universal as most people can see they are not victims, except of their own grudges.