Phillip schofield

Does anyone care?

pce612

Does anyone care?

Evidently we do, yes!

The suggestion is of grooming. As a psychotherapist working sometimes with teenagers, I've seen the effects of grooming which can be so subtle as to almost defy identification when it's happening. However, one cuts the cake, Schofield is a man of reputation/celebrity and has/had a responsibility not to place himself in any position where he might influence a malleable mind for sexual gain. Full investigation required with no cover ups - enough of that with Saville and Harris.

Yes, I’d be extremely surprised if Holly returns.
She’d be mad to.
She needs to protect and prioritise her sponsorship deals with M&S and Garnier

It’s the age and the power balance. The boy being young teenager when they met, also from what I have read he was still young, so an older powerful man in a position such as Philip schofield should not have had any sexual contact. Bit like a teacher having a favourite pupil and waiting till they are 16 to have a sexual relationship. It’s very wrong and immoral, even if it is a legal age for sexual activity, it’s so wrong! He should not ever work on tv again in my opinion. Let alone if he groomed the boy or not, he still took advantage of his power and it will open the doors for other powerful people in industries where young people can be taken advantage of…

FannyCornforth

pce612

Does anyone care?

Evidently we do, yes!

I assume that anyone on this thread must care. As must anyone concerned about the protection of minors, and about the integrity of a major UK TV channel. Of course we don't need to watch it, but we should at least be aware of what we are tacitly supporting when we decide to opt into or out of doing so.

I completely agree with you. Who on here has never told a lie? Everyone does it at some point. And so many gay (etc.) people feel they have to live a lie because of the homophobes around them. It can be extremely destroying for them to live this way. Such a shame we still have a society of judgement instead of acceptance.

FannyCornforth

Yes, I’d be extremely surprised if Holly returns.
She’d be mad to.
She needs to protect and prioritise her sponsorship deals with M&S and Garnier

Apparently M&S have taken down the posters of her wearing their 'As Worn By Holly' range in at least some of their stores.

I don't 'care'. I have my own problems. However, I have always watched the show and am interested and a bit fascinated. That's all.

I'm another who can't understand what all the fuss and sacking is about. Of course if there is a question of grooming then that's completely different and maybe we'll hear about that in the future. Seemed to me from the bits I've read that he and Holly fell out and she refused to work with him so the network had to make a choice which one to keep. Did read some vitriolic remarks from Eamonn Holmes which shows what a thoroughly unpleasant, vindictive person he is.

Nanamary19

* Katiew1949* Good point Nick is on LBC 7am till 10 in the to go to the studio would be easy as he's already in London.
Maybe he just didn't like PS and HW

GB News is the news channel to watch ko holding back on things that need to be said and heard.
ITV and BBC are just comic stories now

Correct. GB News presenters and guests say what they really mean unlike ITV and BBC where they are scared to say anything.

Eamonn Holmes is a very well respected journalist and presenter. Other presenters who are great at their job on there are Alastair Stewart, Michael Portillo, Revd Calvin Robinson, Nana Akua, Michelle Dewberry. They also have guest panels, usually of 3 people and they have some good old ding dongs and discussions.

I'm not suggesting that I'm comparing like with like here, because as I keep saying, we just don't know the facts, but have we learnt nothing from the totally groundless trial by media of Cliff Richard, Paul Gambaccini, Neil Fox and others? I for one remember the prurient headlines and the speculation in the gutter press at the time. Sir Cliff is one of several well-known figures backing the campaign group Falsely Accused Individuals for Reform (Fair). calling for a change in the law which would mean that those who are suspected of sexual offences remain anonymous until they are actually charged, unless there are exceptional circumstances. Yes, it's possible that Schofield is as guilty as sin, but can we please hold off from burning him at the stake until criminal charges are brought against him, he goes to trial, and is found guilty? If no charges are brought against him personally, what has it all been about? ITV internal politics? Bullying and coercion? Professional jealousy? I don't know.. and frankly, neither does anyone else on this thread.

knspol

I'm another who can't understand what all the fuss and sacking is about. Of course if there is a question of grooming then that's completely different and maybe we'll hear about that in the future. Seemed to me from the bits I've read that he and Holly fell out and she refused to work with him so the network had to make a choice which one to keep. Did read some vitriolic remarks from Eamonn Holmes which shows what a thoroughly unpleasant, vindictive person he is.

We are hearing about all of this now . This is very clearly not about a 'fall out' between PS and HW - advertisers don't pull out over that sort of thing, and neither do numerous other channels get involved in a discussion of a show that airs on a rival one.

EH may not be a very nice man (he's definitely said some stupid things over the years), and yes, he is being vindictive, but someone has to speak up about things like this, or there will be no protection for those at the bottom of the pile.

'We' need to learn from the mistakes made when Savile and Harris's crimes were covered up by a conspiracy of silence and by bowing to the culture of celebrity, and not let it happen again. A public outcry is about the only way that ITV (and/or the police) might be pushed into action, and all that the likes of us can do is to make it clear that the won't go away if they ignore it. It certainly appears that they have made no effort to properly investigate the persistent (and sordid) rumours up to now.

I’m sorry to keep repeating this, but the ball is surely in the young man’s court. He’s 27, and if he wants to involve the police, as opposed to his lawyers confirming he was of age, he will do so.

*unwise but not illegal”
Imagine, that being your base line for sexual relationships

Village gossips? Hanging judges? Shoot first and ask questions later? Definitely, they’re all on this thread and having a ball.

NanaDana 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Did anyone here watch the Morning Show on Apple TV with Jennifer Anniston and Steve Carrell? This situation is very similar!

Oreo

Village gossips? Hanging judges? Shoot first and ask questions later? Definitely, they’re all on this thread and having a ball.

NanaDana 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

Do I have your permission to quote this post when everything is out in the open, and people are saying how something should have been done long ago?

'We' need to learn from the mistakes made when Savile and Harris's crimes were covered up by a conspiracy of silence and by bowing to the culture of celebrity, and not let it happen again. A public outcry is about the only way that ITV (and/or the police) might be pushed into action, and all that the likes of us can do is to make it clear that the won't go away if they ignore it. It certainly appears that they have made no effort to properly investigate the persistent (and sordid) rumours up to now.

Well said Doodledog

Philip Schofield’s homosexuality has been an open secret amongst those in the media for many years. It really isn’t anybody’s business except for him and his family.

Matthew McGreevy uses a number of professional sites that I’m still a member of, even though I’m now retired. His career seems to be going well without Schofield or ITV involvement. I shouldn’t think he’ll want to be involved in the current furore.

As you were.

Well said again Doodledog. We don’t have the details but it’s clear concerns were raised by colleagues who were shut down. Has light entertainment learned nothing

Iam64

It’s said they met at a drama schoolwhen the man who became Schofield’s young partner, was ten years old. The suggestion is of grooming.

I read that the boy was fifteen when they first met but that a relationship didn’t start until he was eighteen. I don’t know any more than that but I think others do. Eamonn Holmes has said ITV knew as they used to send a car to Schofields flat to collect the young man for work.
Whatever the truth I’ve never liked Schofield since he did the dirty on Fern Britten so she’d leave and he could choose a new co presenter. I don’t watch the programme often because I find it bland and boring and PS a control freak.
Bring back Richard and Judy! If only Judy would agree.

I’m not usually a big tub thumper for LGBTQ issues, but I do wonder if homophobia may be playing a part in the vitriol being poured on PS. I wonder if the other party had been a young woman of 27 instead of a young man what the reaction would have been. After all, Boris Johnson dumped his wife and children for a woman 20 or more years his junior and there were few repercussions although he was Prime Minister of the country!

Yvettehartland1

Did anyone here watch the Morning Show on Apple TV with Jennifer Anniston and Steve Carrell? This situation is very similar!

Apparently, there is a blink and you miss it clip of Phil and Holly in the background of the scene where they are discussing grooming, completely apropos of nothing.

It’s mentioned in Nadine Dorries column in the DM today.

It doesn’t necessarily mean anything, but it’s a bit odd

(Please don’t bother replying decrying either Dorries or The Mail, the clip being in the film is inarguable)

And comparing it to the Cliff and Gambachini stuff doesn’t work.

ITV, Scofield and their respective legal teams will have been all over this from, at the very latest, 2021

Blossoming you are right he doesn’t.
McGreevy’s reluctance to drag this all up is probably partly the reason why it’s rumbled on so long.
Poor bloke.