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nellenoxin Sat 27-May-23 18:11:44

Am I being a bit slow but why is Phillip Schofield being thrown under the bus now? He came out about his sexuality , now revelations about an affair with consensual teenager that he covered up to protect identity , Maybe I'm being naïve but not sure why there has been such a big disconnect from TV at this point .

tickingbird Fri 02-Jun-23 14:07:27

The PR campaign and spin is obviously working judging by the tone of some of these comments.

It’s been well documented that this young man was in a bad way when he was moved from TM off to Loose Women. Another young runner that worked on LW was given the push to make way for him. His crime? He got drunk and openly declared his love for Phillip at the awards. PS couldn’t arrange the movement of staff between programmes; it was arranged by execs behind the scenes.

I don’t like to see anyone hounded but where’s the consideration for this young man’s well being? There’s a nasty smell around all this and it’s not just about an affair. I’d like to see those execs explain themselves. Why is a young man expendable? Why is another young man just pushed out of his job in order to cover up Phillip’s mess? These are human being and just as important as Phillip Schofield. Stop being fooled by the spin - you’re being played.

Shelflife Fri 02-Jun-23 14:08:41

Anniebach of course people lie if they are having an affair!! Hardly going to make it headline news are they?
Whether I like PS or not, I hope justice prevails. If I lied to my best friend , my family and my employers about an affair I was having I would not expect to be sacked from my job ! My private life would be none of their business!!!
I fear PS is being hounded as a direct result of his brothers crimes. That is unfair , unnecessary and unjust!!
On the other hand if he has groomed a young boy he must be punished for that. Let's wait and see before we grind PS into the ground

vegansrock Fri 02-Jun-23 14:10:42

What gets me is why this is headline news?

tickingbird Fri 02-Jun-23 14:11:23

Anniebach.

I’d like to clarify your post as 13:57 which you attributed to me.

My only contribution was the final sentence, I stand by it.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jun-23 14:12:34

Shelflife agree

maddyone Fri 02-Jun-23 14:13:15

vegansrock

What gets me is why this is headline news?

Me too.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jun-23 14:17:45

Because it’s about sex

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 02-Jun-23 14:17:46

Sexual relationships between colleagues are very much against the rules in some jobs even today and will lead to dismissal. And such a relationship between a much older, very famous and influential person and a very young colleague at the start of their career is plainly wrong and potentially exploitative, whatever their gender or marital status.

Nicenanny3 Fri 02-Jun-23 14:20:56

I bet his wife felt suicidal when he came out as gay and left her. I bet this young man felt suicidal after declaring his love for Schofield then being dumped. I've not watched the BBC interview but seems like he's looking for sympathy well he won't get any off me. Not many people in the TV world seem to like him.

Doodledog Fri 02-Jun-23 14:29:08

Smileless2012:
And we don't know that that isn't all it was Doodledog.

But we do! Sex between a powerful older man and an early career boy is not the same as two consenting adults forming a relationship, regardless of whether either is married and what their sexuality is.

That it happened is not in doubt. That one person was young, keen to get a start in TV and powerless, and the other was much older, in a position to grant him his dreams and powerful is also undisputed.

I don't care about their gayness, and I am well aware that affairs at work are commonplace, and I don't see them as sacking matters.

Casdon Fri 02-Jun-23 14:33:23

Doodledog

Smileless2012:
And we don't know that that isn't all it was Doodledog.

But we do! Sex between a powerful older man and an early career boy is not the same as two consenting adults forming a relationship, regardless of whether either is married and what their sexuality is.

That it happened is not in doubt. That one person was young, keen to get a start in TV and powerless, and the other was much older, in a position to grant him his dreams and powerful is also undisputed.

I don't care about their gayness, and I am well aware that affairs at work are commonplace, and I don't see them as sacking matters.

There is no law against a sexual relationship between a 20 year old and a 60 year old though Doodledog, whether there is a power balance between them or not. That is the material point, and unless this young man, or another comes forward to say that they were underage, nothing is going to come of this.

Doodledog Fri 02-Jun-23 14:39:14

That is true, and I haven't said otherwise grin.

Grooming, however, is illegal, and can take place long before a sexual relationship starts. As you say, though, without more proof that can't be tried in court, but the events of the past week confirm the rumours that have been around for years. Time will tell whether more rumours will also turn out to be true.

Anniebach Fri 02-Jun-23 15:03:57

There were rumours and allegations against John Leslie !

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jun-23 15:09:37

Carol McGiffin on GBNews yesterday, talking about the business with the runners

youtu.be/uXD6x3pfYxQ

Nanamary19 Fri 02-Jun-23 15:20:12

Brilliant 2 weeks for Dan Wooton on GB news kept right up to date and honest say it as it is opinions

Daisymae Fri 02-Jun-23 15:27:58

PS does not seem to have committed a crime and he seems to be in a desperate place. I would think that some compassion would not go amiss.

OurKid1 Fri 02-Jun-23 15:39:30

Shelflife

Anniebach of course people lie if they are having an affair!! Hardly going to make it headline news are they?
Whether I like PS or not, I hope justice prevails. If I lied to my best friend , my family and my employers about an affair I was having I would not expect to be sacked from my job ! My private life would be none of their business!!!
I fear PS is being hounded as a direct result of his brothers crimes. That is unfair , unnecessary and unjust!!
On the other hand if he has groomed a young boy he must be punished for that. Let's wait and see before we grind PS into the ground

Absolutely agree with every point you make.

OurKid1 Fri 02-Jun-23 15:44:15

Shelflife

Will someone please clarify something for me ? If PS groomed a young boy then yes indeed a dreadful crime !!!!
However, if what he says is true , ie he made a grave mistake having a relationship with a very young man , this was followed up by lying to Holly, ITV friends and family is that a sackable ' offence' surely that is his private life and his own business? He made mistakes and no doubt bitterly regrets them . I understand he is a public figure but he is also ( as we all are) entitled his privacy. People make unwise relationships that more than often destroy families, but would those people expect to loose their jobs over their mistakes?
Please correct me if I have all this wrong, I fail to understand exactly what is going on!

Me too!

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jun-23 15:53:35

For more information: read the full thread

sodapop Fri 02-Jun-23 16:09:05

I am so tired of this tawdry business being headline news everywhere, Schofield is now cashing in with his poor me interview.
For many years there have been complaints about Schofield and how he treats the people he works with, his chickens are home to roost now.
Eamon Holmes does not come out of this well either with all the bitter comments he keeps issuing.
Let this be dealt with by the appropriate people and leave the headlines for real news worthy items.

3nanny6 Fri 02-Jun-23 16:12:01

I watched the interview that P.S. gave earlier today. I do not feel totally sorry for him but also I do not hold him responsible for everything regarding his affair, although he made it clear in the interview he should have known better and everything was his fault. I believe that P.S is in a dark place right now and he made reference to the late Caroline Flack and how the media involvement contributed to her death. P.S commented that only by the help of his two daughters he is continuing to keep going.
Unless the young man decides to say otherwise about the age he was when the sexual side began then nothing has been
done to commit a crime. In the interview P.S said the young man was 20 when they first had sex and they done it on about five occasions and then P.S said he did not want an ongoing affair. It was said by P.S. that the young man has not got much financial backing and that P.S. has already got the boy a barrister to cover any legal points and he is paying for that.
I agree with Shelflife that all this has happened and that P.S
is being hounded down as a direct result of the recent trial and jailing of his brother which is unnecessary and unjust.
It is up to the boy if he wants to take things further otherwise it is nobodys business.
Also I never watch the show that Holly and Philip were in I hope it goes completely off air and something more interesting comes on.

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jun-23 16:15:22

Utterly despicable for him to mention Caroline Flack.
Her poor family.
He is totally without shame

3nanny6 Fri 02-Jun-23 16:20:12

Utterly despicable that keyboard warriors are condemming P.S. to be guilty without trial when people do not know if it was under age sex.
I am not the biggest fan of P.S but innocent until proved guilty although that saying does not always ring true in this country

FannyCornforth Fri 02-Jun-23 16:22:27

I think that Schofield has a bit more to worry about than what I think

Blondiescot Fri 02-Jun-23 16:22:45

You can be guilty of grooming someone without it having to involve underage sex.