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nellenoxin Sat 27-May-23 18:11:44

Am I being a bit slow but why is Phillip Schofield being thrown under the bus now? He came out about his sexuality , now revelations about an affair with consensual teenager that he covered up to protect identity , Maybe I'm being naïve but not sure why there has been such a big disconnect from TV at this point .

Doodledog Mon 05-Jun-23 10:34:49

No, I don't blame him either Maddie, but largely for the reasons I gave above. Schofield's damage limitation campaign is in full swing, and will take anything the boy says and twist it to their advantage.

The client list of Schofield's management team (for which his daughter works, incidentally) is massive and spreads across many sectors. They have issued a press release saying that they have cut contact with him following information that they have on him, but I wouldn't be surprised if they are working with him behind the scenes - clearly someone is co-ordinating it all, whether it is YMU or another company. Either way, they are powerful machines.

It is normal practice for such companies to use one client to help another, so if they can organise an interview by one of their own, it is not going to be 'probing'. Similarly, if someone comes forward with information that would damage one client, they can use another to neutralise it. They can push one story forward to eclipse an awkward one. That's how reputation management works. The boy wouldn't stand a chance, and when he was in favour he will have seen all of that in action, and know the score.

It may be that he is keeping his counsel for personal reasons. It may also be that he is keeping his powder dry (there is, apparently, an NDA in place that will expire soon), or it may be that something different will come to pass. Time will tell (or it won't, if Schofield's team can prevent it).

I know I'm cynical about this, and I know that it might seem as though I have it in for Schofield. I have no personal axe to grind at all, but I do know how these things work, and it's annoying to see the way this is playing out, with so many people falling for the spin.

From memory, the only things that have been publicly said against Schofield (unless people have dug deeper, where there is a lot more to be found, but that has been the case for years now) are that he resigned (or was sacked) from his role for lying about a 'relationship' with a young man who rose through the ranks because of his patronage, that Holly W has distanced herself from him, and that he is deeply distressed and threatening suicide. Oh, and that a very large number of people think he is an arrogant narcissist whose TV image is fake.

It can't be nice for him to have to listen to that, but come on - it's hardly persecution or likely to drive him to despair, is it? And given that he has put others through as much, there is an element of 'live by the sword, die by the sword' about it. Comments about Savile and similar are not suggesting that Schofield is the same, but that the cover-up by ITV (BBC in the case of Savile) is similar, in that people speaking up are silenced, which deters others from coming forward.

Yes, there has been a media storm, but so far it has stayed in its teacup. Whether it will stay there remains to be seen, but the outcome will be largely in the hands of the management companies who manipulate this sort of thing. If everyone stops talking about this and it drops from the news (as it has done since the Caroline Flack-referenced suicide threats), they will have won, and we will all be the losers, as it is important that we can believe at least some of what we see in the media, and the more our trust is broken, the less chance we will have of knowing what is going on (by which I don't mean people's sex lives, but much more generally than that).

tickingbird Mon 05-Jun-23 10:24:13

More of the cringefest.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 10:23:18

Hasn’t she just! And with relish

Sparklefizz Mon 05-Jun-23 10:21:25

FannyCornforth

www.ladbible.com/news/phillip-schofield-holly-willoughby-this-morning-644177-20230605

There you are! Holly on This Morning, this morning

Right. She's hung PS out to dry then!

Sparklefizz Mon 05-Jun-23 10:18:10

FannyCornforth

Iam64 and Sparklefizz he did similar a couple of weeks back with his mother.
It’s particularly unpleasant after what she is going through with her other son.
I’m sure that she doesn’t want to be all over the papers, for heaven’s sake.
He should be protecting her, alongside his wife and daughters, not using them as a fire wall.

The only person he's been trying to protect is himself.

When he did his interview, he made a point of saying that there "is one person who's totally innocent in all this". I expected him to mean his poor wife (and his daughters) but no..... he meant the young man he was involved with.

His wife, daughters and mother have all been suffering terribly, I'm sure, but he expects them to look after him, not the other way round.

I completely agree with you Fanny

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 10:17:16

www.ladbible.com/news/phillip-schofield-holly-willoughby-this-morning-644177-20230605

There you are! Holly on This Morning, this morning

Callistemon21 Mon 05-Jun-23 10:14:26

FannyCornforth

Sorry! 🤦‍♀️ Yes, 21st May.

😁
I did wonder if I'd missed a few important dates!

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 10:14:23

I’ve just watched Holly’s statement on TM on FB.
I’m trying to find a link

GrannyGravy13 Mon 05-Jun-23 10:08:21

Having several friends in the public eye, I can honestly say at times we are/were aware of paparazzi and others we were not.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 10:06:22

Sorry! 🤦‍♀️ Yes, 21st May.

Joseann Mon 05-Jun-23 10:03:00

21st May FannyCornforth.
(If 21st June has been and gone I've missed my ferry home on 20th!).

Callistemon21 Mon 05-Jun-23 10:02:35

FannyCornforth

Callistemon no, I believe that all the photos were taken around about 21st June.
At that time Schofield was engaged in a charm offensive as he knew the story was about to break, and that his troubles were compounded by the sentencing of his brother.
At the time I criticised him for using his mother and staging his happy family act in front of his photographer

Yes, it should most definitely have been a private time with his mother.

The photos look staged unless, of course, there were photographers with long lenses in a boat somewhere offshore.
Using them a second time could just be lazy journalism.

Callistemon21 Mon 05-Jun-23 10:00:05

NanaDana

Thank you formthat insight, FC. Looks suspiciously like the press may be telling porkies again, about when this "weekend" photo was actually taken. Spot the difference? I can't. Excuse my cynicism, but is this setting Schofield up for a kicking again as someone who is using his aged Mum in playing the sympathy card? If so, it has worked, because some here are responding exactly as expected. The press never let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh? I'm no fan of Schofield, but neither am I a fan of the continued feeding frenzy

Just to say that I do not watch Good Morning, I am not part of any feeding frenzy but I don't take everything I see and read as the absolute truth.
Cynical? Perhaps. But not gullible, I hope.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 09:58:43

Callistemon no, I believe that all the photos were taken around about 21st June.
At that time Schofield was engaged in a charm offensive as he knew the story was about to break, and that his troubles were compounded by the sentencing of his brother.
At the time I criticised him for using his mother and staging his happy family act in front of his photographer

maddyone Mon 05-Jun-23 09:53:25

I take your point Doodledog that the young man (although I don’t think we know his age) has not got the resources available to him that PS has got. However I stick to my opinion that we can’t know what his opinions about all this are, and that his silence may suggest that he’d like the whole circus to go away. We don’t know what he thinks simply because he hasn’t told us. If he was desperate to get his side out, he would only need to approach the media and no doubt, they’d lap it up. Therefore I feel that he prefers to stay out of the whole affair and get on with his life privately. If this is the case, I don’t blame him.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 09:52:52

I think that Schofield’s ‘people’ would have provided the press with the photos.
You seem to be very keen to have an argument NanaDana, you aren’t getting one from me

Callistemon21 Mon 05-Jun-23 09:51:24

FannyCornforth

I’m a bit confused.
The pictures that were supposedly taken yesterday (4th June) look exactly like those which were taken on 21st May, following Timothy Schofield’s sentencing
This is one taken 21st May

In the pictures, the mother-and-son can be seen on a bench as the former 61-year-old presenter puts his arm around his 87-year-old mother and holds her hand as he delivers the devastating news
Phillip Schofield was spotted sharing an emotional moment with his mother as he told her the news of his This Morning axe

They both look quite happy in your photo, FannyC, wearing the same clothes in the same lovely spot.
🤔

Stock photo?

NanaDana Mon 05-Jun-23 09:44:28

Thank you formthat insight, FC. Looks suspiciously like the press may be telling porkies again, about when this "weekend" photo was actually taken. Spot the difference? I can't. Excuse my cynicism, but is this setting Schofield up for a kicking again as someone who is using his aged Mum in playing the sympathy card? If so, it has worked, because some here are responding exactly as expected. The press never let the truth get in the way of a good story, eh? I'm no fan of Schofield, but neither am I a fan of the continued feeding frenzy

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 09:41:22

Joseann KK was visibly very affected by something when she was on This Morning.
Kerry said that it was something to do with antidepressants, while it was suggested on the show that she’d been drinking.
Either way, whatever it was that was influencing her, it was clear that should not have been allowed on air at all.

Joseann Mon 05-Jun-23 09:38:23

Oops, sorry I've just realised I'm an hour ahead. I return to the thread later to read opinions here.

Joseann Mon 05-Jun-23 09:36:36

Has Holly W done a statement on TV today?

Joseann Mon 05-Jun-23 09:35:20

It wasn't your comment Doodledog I picked up on, more Kerry Katona appears to be a deeply damaged person who sometimes causes damage to others. We met her in June 2008 (end of academic year trip) and she certainly wasn't slurring her words, so I don't know why that was in the TV interview, though did it really need to be pointed out and questioned?

Doodledog Mon 05-Jun-23 09:19:56

Joseann

I don't believe Kerry Katona is as damaged and mixed up as some people think. We spent a pleasant time with her and her kids when we were on a school trip abroad, and she was joining in and asking our pupils all about themselves and their school, (a bit like PoWales does!)

I'm not saying that she is damaged now; but she said herself that the interview on TM damaged her mental health, and she has flashbacks to it even now.

She's not the only one - I don't watch the programme, so can't come up with examples of my own, but a number of people (many not famous, but who found themselves in the news for various reasons) have said the same - that they were ambushed and made to look bad, then sent back to the sneers of their neighbours. They weren't given photo opportunities and very undemanding TV and newspaper interviews to help them get over it.

FannyCornforth Mon 05-Jun-23 09:14:57

Thanks Joseann!
I’m utterly convinced the photo’s released of him ‘comforting his mum’ were taken on the previous occasion in May

Joseann Mon 05-Jun-23 09:11:16

To be fair to your detective skills FannyCornforth none of the photos this weekend from my family in Cornwall had them wearing hoodies and jeans during the day! So you might be right. (But I don't know as I'm in boiling France.)