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Phillip schofield

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nellenoxin Sat 27-May-23 18:11:44

Am I being a bit slow but why is Phillip Schofield being thrown under the bus now? He came out about his sexuality , now revelations about an affair with consensual teenager that he covered up to protect identity , Maybe I'm being naïve but not sure why there has been such a big disconnect from TV at this point .

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 13:21:27

If there isn’t something extremely serious behind it all, ITV are being very foolish and reckless by damaging their entire reputation; loosing swathes of viewers; and huge chunks of their advertising revenue.

As I mentioned up thread, many advertisers have already pulled out.

I don’t recall a previous TV scandal of a similar scale to this

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 13:24:38

I know that I’ve misspelled ‘losing’ wink

Iam64 Mon 29-May-23 13:32:19

This young man appears to have been groomed by Schofield. Schofield says their sexual relationship was unwise but legal. Consensual sex at 16 is legal, providing there is no power imbalance, eg teacher-pupil.
We don’t have clear information on ‘legal’ aspects. We do have enough to conclude this young man was groomed. It’s nothing like a witch hunt, no comparison with the investigation triggered by Nick.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 13:33:48

Agreed Iam64

lemsip Mon 29-May-23 13:48:17

on ITV news now. 1.45pm

Casdon Mon 29-May-23 13:57:48

Iam64

This young man appears to have been groomed by Schofield. Schofield says their sexual relationship was unwise but legal. Consensual sex at 16 is legal, providing there is no power imbalance, eg teacher-pupil.
We don’t have clear information on ‘legal’ aspects. We do have enough to conclude this young man was groomed. It’s nothing like a witch hunt, no comparison with the investigation triggered by Nick.

By the accounts he was at least 18, as it was after he started working for the show. I agree that he was groomed.
The element of this saga that strikes me as a witch-hunt is the making up of additional information around the circumstances which are not in the public domain yet, if they ever will be. It seems that Schofield’s actions have been the catalyst for a lot of hate and grudges to be aired, so it’s almost impossible to see the truth, It’s almost like the witch is dead, but let’s drown, burn and hang draw and quarter him as well. And sad to say there are some Gransnetters contributing to the spectacle.

JaneJudge Mon 29-May-23 14:09:01

I don't think it is unusual for the victim of a crime (whatever crime) to not want to make a statement or press charges. Abuse victims may not or will not always recognise abuse because they have been conditioned to think it is normal.

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 14:15:46

Yes JaneJudge, quite right. Or they have been led to believe they are in a relationship or in love.

Wyllow3 Mon 29-May-23 14:17:37

There are clearly a number of issues here, and I'm still waiting for some more clarity. The very toxic atmosphere on the show is unlikely to be caused by just one person.

I think if the young person was "groomed" it does matter what his experience was, and how things developed, but not for the public domain unless eventually charges are brought.

I share your caution, Casdon.

Primrose53 Mon 29-May-23 15:02:25

I believe this young man is biding his time and WILL come forward with his own version of events and to the highest bidder.

eazybee Mon 29-May-23 15:08:36

What evidence is there that this man was groomed? How and why did the relationship end? I remember hearing that someone, possibly the ex-lover, was selling letters for publication, which was why the relationship was made public, but that too may have been speculation.

Theexwife Mon 29-May-23 15:31:41

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 15:45:49

Theexwife

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.

I think that Schofield and ITV could have kept it all under wraps, but due to the crimes of his brother, and what is mentioned above, there was renewed journalistic (and public) interest in the McGreevy story.

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 15:46:36

Continued to keep in under wraps, that should read

GrannyGravy13 Mon 29-May-23 15:47:20

Theexwife

There are also reports that he knew that his brother had underage sex with a boy and told him not to do it again, rather than reporting it.

Phillip Schofield took the stand at his brother’s trial, he told the court that his brother had admitted to him that he and an underage boy were watching pornography together.

PS told the court that he told his brother to stop immediately, but didn’t report his brother to the police at the time.

Anniebach Mon 29-May-23 15:53:50

Watching porn is not having underage sex

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 15:54:26

It’s odd he said that at his brother’s trial. Perhaps his brother told him to stop too but he hasn’t gone to prison for it. As I’ve said before, what a family.

I’ve got 30 male cousins in all kinds of families and not one, let alone two, would be interested in grooming young under age boys for sex.

Anniebach Mon 29-May-23 15:58:09

I doubt your cousins would tell you if they were interested

fancythat Mon 29-May-23 16:02:52

eazybee
Philip Schofield's relationship, whilst immoral as he was married, was between two consenting adults and was not illegal. It is not for the presenters of a TV programme to make public their opinion of his actions in such a way that it feeds unpleasant speculation and innuendo until relevant information, if there is any, is released.

It does beg the question, if there are things to tell, of what they are supposed to do?
Apparently, so some are saying, bosses investigated and were told nothing was happening.

Forsythia Mon 29-May-23 16:05:12

Anniebach

I doubt your cousins would tell you if they were interested

I doubt they would AnnieBach but given that I know all of them very well I think it unlikely. From years and years of knowing them, their wives and their families.
How about you and your family? Do you know them all well?

FannyCornforth Mon 29-May-23 16:09:23

Anniebach

Watching porn is not having underage sex

Yes, but Timothy Schofield was jailed for six years for having sex with the underage boy on several occasions

Oreo Mon 29-May-23 16:15:41

Casdon

Iam64

This young man appears to have been groomed by Schofield. Schofield says their sexual relationship was unwise but legal. Consensual sex at 16 is legal, providing there is no power imbalance, eg teacher-pupil.
We don’t have clear information on ‘legal’ aspects. We do have enough to conclude this young man was groomed. It’s nothing like a witch hunt, no comparison with the investigation triggered by Nick.

By the accounts he was at least 18, as it was after he started working for the show. I agree that he was groomed.
The element of this saga that strikes me as a witch-hunt is the making up of additional information around the circumstances which are not in the public domain yet, if they ever will be. It seems that Schofield’s actions have been the catalyst for a lot of hate and grudges to be aired, so it’s almost impossible to see the truth, It’s almost like the witch is dead, but let’s drown, burn and hang draw and quarter him as well. And sad to say there are some Gransnetters contributing to the spectacle.

Just what I was thinking Casdon contributing to the spectacle and enjoying themselves.Some comments could well be libellous too.

Doodledog Mon 29-May-23 16:18:19

FannyCornforth

Anniebach

Watching porn is not having underage sex

Yes, but Timothy Schofield was jailed for six years for having sex with the underage boy on several occasions

Yes, you don't get 12 years for masturbating in front of porn, which is supposedly what he admitted to PS.

MM has now said that despite ITV's insistence that there was an investigation, he was never asked about his 'relationship' with PS. They say that fish rot from the head down. . .

Smileless2012 Mon 29-May-23 16:20:28

I wouldn't want a member of my family to be tarred with the same brush because for example his brother's now a convicted paedophile; would you Forsythia.

Galaxy Mon 29-May-23 16:24:17

Exposing minors to sexual material is illegal.