Channel 4 CHris Packham Is it time to break the law?

henetha

Whoops! Yes, maybe it was. Sorry. Not like me. Must have had an off day!!

It was late too

Whoops! Yes, maybe it was. Sorry. Not like me. Must have had an off day!!

Sorry, 'Think he tells it as it is'.

I think we need someone exactly like Chris Packham. He's not afraid of calling people out on their hypocrisy and greed, and I think it tells it as it is. Good for him having strong feelings on nature, wildlife, etc. I hope he carries on sticking up for environment.

I don't like his presentation style at all. Spring Watch always made me cringe with it's Playschool-like delivery, but on his own, Chris Packham is great. And 'Mother Nature' needs him and people like him.

eazybee

Because of his autism, Chris Packham finds it difficult to tolerate any one else's point of view other than his own. Acceptable in private life, but as a broadcaster, particularly for the BBC, he should remain impartial.
Actually, I don't consider him a good presenter; he never knows when to change course, and no awareness of listeners' boredom thresholds.
And no , it is not acceptable for Gary Lineker to promote his person political views, but he is a footballer awarded (not earning) obscene amounts of money, therefore apparently untouchable.

I’ve read that he and Greta Thunberg both have autism which explains a lot.They will see things more in black and white with no grey areas and have narrow views and strong feelings.
Both will feel tortured on this subject.

Franbern

freya just for you to get facts correct. The Slow marchers ALWAYS allow publi transport (buses), and Emergency Vehicles to pass them. NOBODY has died due to these demonstrations. However, millions will die due to to climate change.

The impression he gave me was that he was more 'sad' than anything else at the rather silly, very nasty things on twitter. Fortunate he is not female, as those horrible peopl wold have made even worse comments!!!

At no point did he incite violence.

Most big changes to society have come about due to people taking effecfive action, sometimes een violent actions. Ghandi may have 'sat' his way to his country's freedom, but the Chartists had to march and take direct action, Trade Unions did not get their recognition via 'lobbying'. THe vote for Women was fought for through both violent and non-violent actions (most of the violent ones being on the part of The State).

Cannot see how anyone could call Chris Packham any sort of Hypocrite - exactly the opposite to me.

He did by suggestion. What a patronising piece. See October 2022 for deaths caused by actions of stop oil. Good bye on this note.

Ouch henetha. That was a tad sharp.

Well don't then. It's not compulsory.

I can't stand to watch him or listen to him.

Whitewavemark2

Sparklefizz

Franbern The Slow marchers ALWAYS allow public transport (buses), and Emergency Vehicles to pass them.

I'm not sure this is true.

It is - don’t believe the myths put out.

It is absolutely true that Ambulances are let through, plus Police cars with flashing lights ( or even a toot on the horn) when XR activists are demonstrating.

I Can’t/won’t tell you how I know though……

I don’t have any knowledge about any other protesters.

Sparklefizz

Franbern The Slow marchers ALWAYS allow public transport (buses), and Emergency Vehicles to pass them.

I'm not sure this is true.

No it isn't true.

He doesn’t need to debate his own view in public. People normally decide for themselves if they want to protest about something. Anyway, it doesn’t really matter, it was just a television programme made to entertain people.

maddyone

I tend to avoid watching programmes such as these, there’s enough on the news to keep me informed about what’s happening re the environment and that’s depressing enough, without listening to someone on their particular soapbox trying to frighten us all. Since he’s worked for the BBC and is now working apparently for Channel 4 I think he’s in a very privileged position and has been given a slot to make his views known.
Fine if you want to watch, I’ll definitely give it a miss.

Maddyone* In ths programme, Chris Packham was NOT trying to frighten anyone. He was debating his own view as whether or not he, personally, should be more active in protests .

eazybee

Because of his autism, Chris Packham finds it difficult to tolerate any one else's point of view other than his own. Acceptable in private life, but as a broadcaster, particularly for the BBC, he should remain impartial.
Actually, I don't consider him a good presenter; he never knows when to change course, and no awareness of listeners' boredom thresholds.
And no , it is not acceptable for Gary Lineker to promote his person political views, but he is a footballer awarded (not earning) obscene amounts of money, therefore apparently untouchable.

That explains a lot.

I tend to avoid watching programmes such as these, there’s enough on the news to keep me informed about what’s happening re the environment and that’s depressing enough, without listening to someone on their particular soapbox trying to frighten us all. Since he’s worked for the BBC and is now working apparently for Channel 4 I think he’s in a very privileged position and has been given a slot to make his views known.
Fine if you want to watch, I’ll definitely give it a miss.

Because of his autism, Chris Packham finds it difficult to tolerate any one else's point of view other than his own. Acceptable in private life, but as a broadcaster, particularly for the BBC, he should remain impartial.
Actually, I don't consider him a good presenter; he never knows when to change course, and no awareness of listeners' boredom thresholds.
And no , it is not acceptable for Gary Lineker to promote his person political views, but he is a footballer awarded (not earning) obscene amounts of money, therefore apparently untouchable.

Sparklefizz

Franbern The Slow marchers ALWAYS allow public transport (buses), and Emergency Vehicles to pass them.

I'm not sure this is true.

Well Just Stop Oil certainly don’t. All the traffic is stopped. People were pleading with them to let them through because they had hospital appointments, or were trying to get to their loved ones in hospital. It all fell on stony ground. Emergency vehicles were not allowed through.
This is not the way to get the public on side.
I didn’t see the programme so I can’t comment on it.

Can't stand his brand of sanctimonious drivel..

I’m with you Visgirl and Urmstongran a no, no in this house too.

So it’s ok for Gary Lineker to spout his political views but not Chris Packham, according to the bbc. 🤔

For me, the saddest ans most worrying part of this programme was th international conference, which had David Attenborough giving a welcoming speech (on screen) urging thm to action. All Applauded. However, Chris then told us that over the time of the conference, Fossil Fuel lobbyists got smuggled in to speak to and whisper in the ears, etc of the delgates so as th COnference went on, less and less of what they had applauded Attenborough for was remembered and acted on.

Profit now.....damn the future.

Urmstongran

He irritates the life out of me. I can’t bear to listen to his hyperbolic rants.

I'm with you on this Urm..
He's an instant turn off in our Household.

But watch this space

I must watch the programme first

From yesterday’s Telegraph:

“Packham was not here to ask whether climate change activists should do their thing, but to debate what that thing should be. Just Stop Oil stunts aren’t likely to change government policy or garner much public sympathy, Packham said. Watching two gauche kids throw paint at the doors of the Policy Exchange in front of an audience of no one, then wait meekly to be arrested, he spoke kindly of them but described it as “somewhat childish vandalism”. Observing a slow march that held up traffic, he said that inconveniencing drivers was “absolutely meaningless” in a country where roadworks and traffic measures do that anyway.

So off he went to Sweden to meet Andreas Malm, who has written a book called How to Blow Up a Pipeline. He agreed that disrupting the lives of ordinary people in low-level ways was not helpful, and suggested more aggressive forms of protest. Is Packham dangerous or naive, using his platform to suggest the possibility of violent action?

He’s certainly ignoring the BBC’s directive that its stars – he has been the face of Springwatch for years – should be cautious about expressing political opinions. There was a desperation to him that felt slightly uncomfortable to watch.

Some of it was carefully framed for the cameras – a shot of him with head in hands, despairing after an interview with Lord Lilley, who challenged his claims about rising global temperatures. Elsewhere he spoke of an overwhelming sense of guilt at failing to conserve the environment; his partner spoke of him feeling obligated to make a difference to the planet and “with obligation often comes personal sacrifice and pain and suffering, but what’s the alternative? It consumes him”.

That sounds unhealthy. The programme ended with Packham saying that he now believed radical protest to be “the ethically responsible thing to do”. He offered no insight into what his next move might be; he didn’t seem very enthusiastic about Hallam’s suggestion that Packham martyr himself for the cause by doing something serious enough to go to prison. But watch this space.”

Urmstongran

He irritates the life out of me. I can’t bear to listen to his hyperbolic rants.

I really like him, especially his interactions with his step-daughter!

However, I haven't watched this yet, the last programme I saw was his series called Earth, which I can recommend.