Documentary on Tasmania and the genocide of the aborigines Channel 4

Quelle

There’s a BBC series about Australia that features Tasmania, too. I haven’t watched it yet, though. I can’t seem to find time to watch all the thing I want to watch.

BBC4 now- second episode. Just so appalling- such violence and human beings killed in the cruellest way, like animals.

maddyone

Callistemon21

It's yet another Britain-bashing thread.

🙂

Yes.

What a sick thing to say.

Watch, and then comment.

Quelle? BBC 4.

Like animals? Is it ok for animals to be cruelly killed?

FGS, this happened so many years ago. Get over it. And yes, it’s bashing Britain again quite unnecessarily.

The two documentaries are on BBC4, right now- I am watching right now. And those people have not got over it, and never will. I have several relatives who live in Tasmania- not British. It is about Australia too.

Have the guts to watch, then come back with such comments. I never knew about what happened- and both OH and I have been really shocked to find out. Watch, then discuss.

As the young woman just said- surely, this is a story that deserves to be remember- lest we forget.

If I was interested I would watch. I’m not interested. Nothing to do with guts.

If you are not interested- then just have the decency to keep quiet. Honestly.

Oh it has to do with guts- lots of, as it was beyond sickening.
I watched because we are invited to go and spend time with family in Tasmania. I never expected what the programme highlighted. The nationality of the perpetrators, who comitted those vilest crimes and ethnic cleansing of the worst order, is not important.

Fleurpepper

Quelle? BBC 4.

What?
I do not get the significance of this post.
I commented "quelle surprise" and the programme in question was on Channel 4 - but what is this to do with?

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

It sounds as if this is the first you have heard of this, Fleurpepper.

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

They may have a dark, history, then - have you done any research?

Nothing to do with guts FP (what an insult). I’m not interested. OK? How dare you tell me to have the decency to keep quiet. You watched for a particular reason. I don’t share that reason. I have my own interests. Strange that ‘many’ of your relatives (presumably Swiss?) settled in S Australia. I, born in England, can only claim ‘one’ relative who settled in Australia in the nineteenth century (not a convict btw). And ‘two’ in the twentieth century.

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

Quelle surprise. I wasn’t expecting that. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

The 1820s were 200 years ago

I've read a lot about Australian history but didn't realise that the first pictures of Tasmanian Aboriginals were drawn by the Swiss artist Johann Wäber who accompanied Captain Cook in 1777.

We know the Swiss were involved in the slave trade, emigrating to the Americas and Australia, and although were not colonists themselves bought or seized estates and plantations and did benefit from seizures of land from natives who were either killed or driven to the extremities.

The Swiss sent mercenaries to the colonies of other European countries to help suppress the native populations.

They also sent Lutheran missionaries to Australia to set up missions to try to convert the heathen population. I'd read about that a long time ago.

Were your ancestors missionaries, Fleurpepper?

Well some of my relatives died at a very young age fighting under the Australian flag in a European war in 1916. It was a long time ago and they were Australians, first generation. Nothing to do with the original inhabitants of Tasmania, long gone. Vikings defeated and killed some of my ancestors long ago. Oh, and before that the Romans conquered Britain. Just how it is. The British were no better or worse than anyone else. Canadians and Americans ? Same thing. C’est la vie.

Have the guts to watch, then come back with such comments. I never knew about what happened- and both OH and I have been really shocked to find out. Watch, then discuss

I am surprised that you have never heard of this and other historical events especially since you say you had ancestors who went to Australia in the 1820s.

Just because you and your OH have no knowledge of this and other events does not mean the rest of us have not.

There are innumerable books about this and other events, both fiction and non-fiction available for anyone who wishes to expand their knowledge. Some of the fiction books are extremely well-researched and based on actual facts.

There are innumerable books available, both fiction and non-fiction if you wish to find out more.

Have the guts to watch
That is really rather a rude comment.

As I said earlier, I have been to Australia very many times, including Tasmania, our visits do not entail staying in a city suburb (built on land now acknowledged to the traditional custodians) and have spent time visiting museums, talking with indigenous peoples and a member of my family works closely with a well-known leader of one of these communities.

Watching a TV programme does not make us experts.

Bet the person making the program wasn’t a Taswegian, either.

Have the guts to watch, then come back with such comments. I never knew about what happened- and both OH and I have been really shocked to find out. Watch, then discuss

Bossy too!

It just maybe that some posters are not particularly interested in this too. It all happened a long time ago, and many people want to move on with their lives and live in the present, and not be constantly looking over their shoulders at events which happened so far away and so long ago.