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Documentary on Tasmania and the genocide of the aborigines Channel 4

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Fleurpepper Wed 15-Nov-23 22:16:28

Did any of you watch this harrowing first part, last night on Channel 4. It was truly shocking and sickening.

Most 'interesting' was how, in such a situation, the natives are portrayed back home as monsters who kill innocent women and babies - the white settlers- when in fact the native aborigines are killed in their 1000s in the most violent, sickening and vile way, or shot in the back, or pushed down cliffs into the ocean in their 100s- whilst their land is taken away.

Callistemon21 Tue 21-Nov-23 22:44:33

I've read a lot about Australian history but didn't realise that the first pictures of Tasmanian Aboriginals were drawn by the Swiss artist Johann Wäber who accompanied Captain Cook in 1777.

We know the Swiss were involved in the slave trade, emigrating to the Americas and Australia, and although were not colonists themselves bought or seized estates and plantations and did benefit from seizures of land from natives who were either killed or driven to the extremities.

The Swiss sent mercenaries to the colonies of other European countries to help suppress the native populations.

They also sent Lutheran missionaries to Australia to set up missions to try to convert the heathen population. I'd read about that a long time ago.

Were your ancestors missionaries, Fleurpepper?

RosiesMaw Tue 21-Nov-23 22:33:11

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

The 1820s were 200 years ago

MerylStreep Tue 21-Nov-23 22:26:34

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

Quelle surprise. I wasn’t expecting that. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Nov-23 22:26:22

Nothing to do with guts FP (what an insult). I’m not interested. OK? How dare you tell me to have the decency to keep quiet. You watched for a particular reason. I don’t share that reason. I have my own interests. Strange that ‘many’ of your relatives (presumably Swiss?) settled in S Australia. I, born in England, can only claim ‘one’ relative who settled in Australia in the nineteenth century (not a convict btw). And ‘two’ in the twentieth century.

Callistemon21 Tue 21-Nov-23 22:16:08

Fleurpepper

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

They may have a dark, history, then - have you done any research?

Callistemon21 Tue 21-Nov-23 22:15:30

It sounds as if this is the first you have heard of this, Fleurpepper.

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 22:13:29

And it was not that long ago- many relatives of mine went to settle in Southern Australia in the 1820 and 30s.

RosiesMaw Tue 21-Nov-23 22:11:33

Fleurpepper

Quelle? BBC 4.

What?
I do not get the significance of this post.
I commented "quelle surprise" and the programme in question was on Channel 4 - but what is this to do with?confusedconfused

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 22:11:23

If you are not interested- then just have the decency to keep quiet. Honestly.

Oh it has to do with guts- lots of, as it was beyond sickening.
I watched because we are invited to go and spend time with family in Tasmania. I never expected what the programme highlighted. The nationality of the perpetrators, who comitted those vilest crimes and ethnic cleansing of the worst order, is not important.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Nov-23 22:05:37

If I was interested I would watch. I’m not interested. Nothing to do with guts.

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 22:05:03

As the young woman just said- surely, this is a story that deserves to be remember- lest we forget.

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 22:02:29

The two documentaries are on BBC4, right now- I am watching right now. And those people have not got over it, and never will. I have several relatives who live in Tasmania- not British. It is about Australia too.

Have the guts to watch, then come back with such comments. I never knew about what happened- and both OH and I have been really shocked to find out. Watch, then discuss.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Nov-23 21:47:38

FGS, this happened so many years ago. Get over it. And yes, it’s bashing Britain again quite unnecessarily.

Germanshepherdsmum Tue 21-Nov-23 21:45:13

Like animals? Is it ok for animals to be cruelly killed?

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 21:44:43

Quelle? BBC 4.

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 21:44:29

maddyone

Callistemon21

It's yet another Britain-bashing thread.

🙂

Yes.

What a sick thing to say.

Watch, and then comment.

Fleurpepper Tue 21-Nov-23 21:38:12

BBC4 now- second episode. Just so appalling- such violence and human beings killed in the cruellest way, like animals.

MayBee70 Mon 20-Nov-23 23:46:43

There’s a BBC series about Australia that features Tasmania, too. I haven’t watched it yet, though. I can’t seem to find time to watch all the thing I want to watch.

RosiesMaw Fri 17-Nov-23 13:39:53

Quelle gringrin

RosiesMaw Fri 17-Nov-23 13:38:41

Callistemon21

It's yet another Britain-bashing thread.

🙂

Quelled surprise 😮

maddyone Fri 17-Nov-23 11:27:37

Callistemon21

It's yet another Britain-bashing thread.

🙂

Yes.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-Nov-23 11:17:34

nanna8

People in the UK , particularly England, seem to like to do that. Very different from other countries which tend to regard patriotism in a positive way. I feel proud to have been born in England, just as I am proud to be Australian for the past 50 years. Both are two of the best countries in the world as far as I’m concerned. Not the politicians, ( hell no ) the countries and the peoples.

They do but I'm not sure if the OP resides in the UK now.

nanna8 Fri 17-Nov-23 10:51:28

People in the UK , particularly England, seem to like to do that. Very different from other countries which tend to regard patriotism in a positive way. I feel proud to have been born in England, just as I am proud to be Australian for the past 50 years. Both are two of the best countries in the world as far as I’m concerned. Not the politicians, ( hell no ) the countries and the peoples.

Germanshepherdsmum Thu 16-Nov-23 15:16:12

Unfortunately, yes.

Callistemon21 Thu 16-Nov-23 15:12:21

It's yet another Britain-bashing thread.

🙂