Joan Collins and Louis Theroux interview

Not at all.

Back to Joan. Some are interested in the tittle tattle, the botox, plastic surgery, and such stuff. I would be interested in knowing what she witnessed this week-end- and believe that would be a lot more important. Your choice, my choice.

Your post goes much further - do you not realise that? You have made direct allegations against Johnson and Lebedev, and they are libellous.

Concerns were all over the HoC, the HoL and the Press, including the Telegraph and other Tory papers. Here from the Independent in July 2022

''Boris Johnson’s revelation that he met with ex-KGB agent Alexander Lebedev at the height of the Salisbury poisoning scandal suggests a “serious security breach” took place, Labour has said.

Shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper branded the private encounter between the then foreign secretary and Mr Lebedev “*unthinkable” given its timing in the aftermath of a chemical attack on UK soil.*

During an appearance before the Liaison Committee on Wednesday, Mr Johnson admitted for the first time he had met the Russian oligarch without officials present in April 2018.

Pressure has been mounting on the Prime Minister since then to explain the nature of the meeting – which happened straight after a Nato summit on how to respond to the Kremlin – and whether it was properly disclosed.

Ms Cooper and deputy Labour leader Angela Rayner have now written to Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster Kit Malthouse calling for an investigation into the “murky affair”.

We actually need to know the facts about what happened and why on earth he was so irresponsible with our national security at that time
Yvette Cooper

Speaking to Sky’s Sophy Ridge on Sunday, the shadow home secretary said: “We don’t know what happened at this meeting, we don’t know even whether the Prime Minister actually declared the meeting properly or told officials about it afterwards.

“It just feels unthinkable that at a time when we had a chemical attack on UK soil, and it was so serious that we had a Nato meeting about it, about how to respond to Russia, at that time you can have a foreign secretary who would then just go and have a meeting with an ex-KGB agent, someone who has since been sanctioned by Canada for close links to Putin.

“*To have that meeting at that time shows a careless disregard for national security risks. We actually need to know the facts about what happened and why on earth he was so irresponsible with our national security at that time.*”

She pointed to the scandal as part of a wider pattern of alleged problematic behaviour from the Prime Minister and said it suggested a “serious security breach” took place.

“I think the problem is that you have somebody who’s still in Downing Street who no-one thinks has any duties, any sense of duty to the country, who’s been responsible for lies, for law-breaking and also today’s allegations around abuse of power towards a young woman while he was Mayor of London,” Ms Cooper told the programme.''

Not at all.

‘Very likely it led to blackmail’. You are skating on very thin ice - that is libellous, as are your references to the Salisbury poisonings and Russian interference in UK politics. I would suggest you ask for your post to be deleted.

Katie Price apparently was busy under the table where Johnson was and was removed after she flashed her boobs at him and all in attendance. But I am not bothered about that.

As for me giving an indication I am Scottish, no I did not. Neither did I give any indication that I live in Switzerland (as a British citizen) - I was outed by someone, who tricked me by pm.

BlueBelle

She looks terrible not because she’s 90 but because of all the horrendous work she’s had done on her poor face Callestamom She’d look so much better if she did look 90

"In a recent interview with The Guardian, the 90-year-old actress and author opened up about the skincare tips she lives by and revealed why she has never had any cosmetic procedures. "I've had nothing done," she told the outlet when complimented on her skin. "I couldn't do all that."
people.com/joan-collins-says-she-had-nothing-done-to-her-face-7975145#:~:text=In%20a%20recent%20interview%20with,couldn't%20do%20all%20that.

Do a bit of research, it is all out there.

So. If eg David Cameron, now that he’s foreign Secretary went to a party in Italy which was hosted by a Russian oligarch and attended by people like Katie Price. And was then photographed travelling home in a dishevelled state, obviously the worse for wear. And then put that oligarch into the House of Lords. Would that be deemed to be acceptable. Or is the fact that Johnson was a complete car crash of a politician absolve him of any wrongdoing because it’s ‘just Boris’? Should we just laugh and forget about it?

Germanshepherdsmum

What do you mean by ‘Lebedev (blackmail)’ FP? What evidence do you have that he is a security risk? And please clarify what damage he has done.
Btw you are confusing ‘eg’ (exempli gratia) with ‘ie’ (id est).

Well, let's go back to my initial comment. This is exactly why the one interesting thing to ask Joan C was about what happened that week-end. All we know is that he went, as Foreign Secretary, against all advice, to Lebedev's party (drunken/drug/women provided orgy). He was still very drunk and disheveled at the airport the next day, barely knew his name and couldn't walk properly. So it is very likely he was filmed and very likely it led to blackmail, and that it was later linked to Lebedev's peerage, and more. So yes, it would be VERY interesting to know what Joan C witnessed that night.

That was soon after the Salisbury poisoning. And of course at the time of Russian interference in UK's affairs, Brexit vote and possibly more.

Anniel

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper isn’t Scottish, she’s Swiss living in Switzerland.

I sit back in amazement! Fleur Pepper lives in Switzerland! I love that country! My sister in law has a Swiss husband and we get on very well. I always thought Fleur Pepper was a Scot. All I can say is lucky you FP! only drawback is that Switzerland is an extremely expensive country in which to live. My late husband and I visited Thun to meet his sister and her husband. It was a last goodbye for him because he died soon after and they returned to Australia where they now live. but Thun is still his home town.

I'm not sure that Fleurpepper ever gave any indication that she is a Scot living in Scotland. 🤔

There are a number of Scottish Gransnetters, however.
Joan's husband Percy is half-Scottish/Irish.

What do you mean by ‘Lebedev (blackmail)’ FP? What evidence do you have that he is a security risk? And please clarify what damage he has done.
Btw you are confusing ‘eg’ (exempli gratia) with ‘ie’ (id est).

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper isn’t Scottish, she’s Swiss living in Switzerland.

I am British, currently living in Switzerland. Not that it is anyone's business, or makes any difference.

I’m a typical English/Scot/Irish/danish/French mongrel or so my dna tells me

Absolutely and totally irrelevant to this thread.

Well, it is releant if someone thought you were Scottish, living in Scotland.

If Annie1 thought I was Scottish, living in Scotland, then I'd correct that assumption quite happily.

I've never had my DNA taken for genealogical research purposes btw so I could have % Scottish DNA. 🙂
My DC have through DH.

We're all bitzers.

Germanshepherdsmum

Johnson is history, no point harping on about him.

Lebedev (blackmail) is still in the House of Lords, eg part of our Governement- and a true security risk. And the damage he has done lives on.

RosiesMaw

^How many Grans like FP are Scottish?^

Whatever gave you that idea?

Unless there are more ancestors along with the Tasmanians, French, S. African, Swiss etc?

Absolutely and totally irrelevant to this thread. There are many British citizens on this Forum who live abroad. But only one who gets called out for it, on each and every thread, time and time again. Just so bizarre.

But my DNA definitely has 8% Scottish- so there. We are indeed a very mixed bunch- and again, this is totally irrelevant.

Thank you Iam64 for confirming my concerns about Johnson and the Lebedevs are based on fact. As said, for me, and for many- Joan's take on what happened that week-end would be a lot more interesting than all the tittle tattle.

RosiesMaw
You forgot the Americans 😂

If Joan Collins wants to still look glamorous at her age, it seems her husband Percy likes that from his comments in the programme. She and Percy seem to have a contented relationship.

Yes, she has had work done but it's much better than the work done by young women in their 20s and 30s. Her lips are normal and her eyebrows for a start.

Her wigs are fabulous and really enhance her face.

She's lively and interesting and I enjoyed the programme.

spring is here - I often disagree with Fleurpepper on various subjects. She is more than capable of standing her own corner and I’m not leaping to her defence in responding to your post at 16.06 today.
Threads meander. Fleur mentioned Johnson’s vague connection with Joan Collins as a widely reported get together in Italy. As foreign secretary, Johnson was advised not to attend. He dud, as ever, exactly what he wanted to do and went. Lebedev (now lord lebedev - thank Johnson) owned the venture. Italian secret service intelligence was monitoring the villa at this time.
The next day, various British tourists saw him at an Italian airport, much the worse for wear. His friend Lebedev got a peerage.
Repeating these well established facts doesn’t mean I “hate’ Johnson. It means I’m concerned he appeared to put his own interests first when foreign Secretary , as he did when PM

Saying these things doesn’t mean I care anything about Corbyn, or thst my comments are tribal/party political. It means I want grown up politics

Apologies for getting political on a ‘light hearted ‘ thread.
Joan Collins isn’t my role model but I admire her determination and zest for life

Johnson is history, no point harping on about him.

What stories she could tell, a real star, wonderful career. Who cares what she looks like, real bitchiness in those comments, she's still full of life and long may she be so.

MerylStreep

Fleurpepper isn’t Scottish, she’s Swiss living in Switzerland.

I sit back in amazement! Fleur Pepper lives in Switzerland! I love that country! My sister in law has a Swiss husband and we get on very well. I always thought Fleur Pepper was a Scot. All I can say is lucky you FP! only drawback is that Switzerland is an extremely expensive country in which to live. My late husband and I visited Thun to meet his sister and her husband. It was a last goodbye for him because he died soon after and they returned to Australia where they now live. but Thun is still his home town.

springishere

Anniel Sat 25-Nov-23 16:06:17
As I will be 90 next year, I will now watch the interview. I am not a film fan, but Joan Collins is a great personality so it will be interesting to see her. Fleur Pepper’s carry on about three Italian party makes me shake my head. From a light hearted discussion about a famous personality, FP has to bring her hatred of Johnson into the subject. What a miserable thing to do! Can I ask a question? How many Grans like FP are Scottish? If most of those who dwell only on hating the Tories are Scots then I understand them better. Now if I could be bothered I could rake up Jeremy Corbyn’s sex life and wee could have a thread about him, but I notice that nobody seems to have any interest in a rather insignificant man so he isn’t worth it. I love Gransnet but I had no idea that so many middle class, well educated women seem to hate a lot of disdain for those of us who have a more middle view of the world.

Agree absolutely.

Jeremy Corbyn was never Foreign Secretary unlike Johnson who was in that position when he went unchaperoned to that party. A huge security risk to the country and something that should not be overlooked.

How many Grans like FP are Scottish?

Whatever gave you that idea?

Unless there are more ancestors along with the Tasmanians, French, S. African, Swiss etc?