The MET are investigating the Post Office and Fujitsu

Oreo

Glad the Met are investigating, better late than never.The point of the investigation is where all the money paid back by the SPM’s went, when there was no actual money missing, just wrong numbers churned out by Horizon.Fraud in other words.

But the Met can't even sort themselves out!

Private Eye also picked up this story but I don't think they pursued with it. Also the Eye has a bit of reputation for not being completely accurate with their stories. I know this from a friend's experience although I won't elaborate further as it's not my story to tell.

Someone from Computer Weekly was interviewed in the documentary following the ITV docu-drama.

MaizeD I dont know if you saw the drama doc. Or the follow up program, but at least one of the accused Spm's investigation team cleared her of theft.

I've been following it for a long time, Namsnanny. I saw the drama and the follow up documentary.

The point I was making about the investigators was that before Horizon was installed it would have been easier for them to investigate a possible case of fraud because there would have been a paper trail at the PO branch for them to follow. There was nothing once Horizon was installed. Investigations would have been easier, (and probably much fewer).

This doesn't excuse what they did afterHorizon, but the lack of a paper trail and the proliferation of cases must have made investigation more difficult. I was just wandering off on a bit of speculation, really...

I just cannot believe that no-one in the Post Office management did not see (or refused to see) the connection between the installation of a computer system and the sudden rise in the numbers of subpostmasters and mistresses who suddenly became thieves!!

It really does beggar belief.

Our own local sub-postmaster and family suddenly disappeared, no-one knew why and there were mutterings of wrong-doing. They hadn't been there for very long. I wish I could find out if they're all right.

I don’t know if this is already up.
But just incase.

www.change.org/p/strip-cbe-from-paula-vennells-due-to-miscarriage-of-justice-under-her-leadership?signed=true

Well we can all rest easy now the Met is investigating the Post Office fraud. They have such a good record.

It seems some did see it, Callistemon, but were easily discouraged from pursuing it

www.postofficescandal.uk/post/criminal-conspiracy-slowly-joining-the-dots/

Thanks MaizieD

Who was the Computer Weekly journalist featured in the ITV documentary?

Signed the petition via the link above 👆.
Let's hope the evil woman has the decency to hand back the cbe before she is stripped of it ✊

MerylStreep

I don’t know if this is already up.
But just incase.

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Keep signing GNs ✊

The Met needs to investigate itself before anyone else. If they can drag themselves away from online porn or taking photos of murdered women that is.

You just know nothing will come of this don't you. The whole of the "establishment" needs to be investigated in my opinion.

PestyOne

MerylStreep

I don’t know if this is already up.
But just incase.

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Keep signing GNs ✊

Over 774,000 have signed the 38Degrees petition.

However, Vennells is not the only one culpable. The head of the Post Office Legal Department had a lot of questions to answer at the enquiry.

I am slowly losing faith in
British justice
Anthing computerized
Some police
People at the top of any organisation.

Already lost faith in
Media
Government
Some other international "elite" organisations.

Yes I dont like this kind of thing. I dont want one person on a spike so to speak because everyone is cross. There are numerous people culpable in this.

Galaxy

Yes I dont like this kind of thing. I dont want one person on a spike so to speak because everyone is cross. There are numerous people culpable in this.

I think you and I are in a minority about this...Galaxy I feel uncomfortable with the hate fest...

Galaxy was saying the same thing as me in fact.

After reading your link:
However, Vennells is not the only one culpable. The head of the Post Office Legal Department had a lot of questions to answer at the enquiry

There were many who are complicit in this - it seems like a conspiracy.

However - the buck stops with the CEO and it is quite mysterious that the previous CEO, Adam Crozier, was not named in the drama or documentary, as I have queried previously.

Callistemon21

However - the buck stops with the CEO and it is quite mysterious that the previous CEO, Adam Crozier, was not named in the drama or documentary, as I have queried previously.

Apparently he is now Head of ITV (not sure of his correct title) but that might answer the question.

Ed Davey was a consultant for the lawyers acting for the Post Office against the sub postmasters at the same time as he was Minister for the Post Office in the coalition government.

Like I said in my previous post, the whole establishment needs investigating, including the Church.

Any decisions or changes to legislation that are made in quick response to public anger are usually poor decisions/legislation.
I (as I said) am really unclear about the Ed Davey timeline - was it at the same time or was it after? I am not doubting you flappergirl, just I have read in some places that it was after?

flappergirl

Callistemon21

However - the buck stops with the CEO and it is quite mysterious that the previous CEO, Adam Crozier, was not named in the drama or documentary, as I have queried previously.

Apparently he is now Head of ITV (not sure of his correct title) but that might answer the question.

Ed Davey was a consultant for the lawyers acting for the Post Office against the sub postmasters at the same time as he was Minister for the Post Office in the coalition government.

Like I said in my previous post, the whole establishment needs investigating, including the Church.

Adam Crozier is no longer CEO' of ITV, he left in 2017. He is currently Chair of BT.

Crozier seems to have his fingers in a lot of pies.

When he was CEO of Royal Mail Group, he closed post offices, made staff redundant and reduced mail deliveries. He sounds ruthless, a "hatchet man".
ITV staff were warned about possible job losses when he joined them.

Gillian Keegan lives in Petworth in West Sussex with her second husband, Michael, and has two stepsons.[40]

Michael Keegan is currently employed as a crown representative to the Cabinet Office, managing cross-government relationships with BAE Systems as a strategic supplier to the Government,[41] He is a non-executive director of the technology company Centerprise,[42][non-primary source needed] having previously been Head of Fujitsu UK and Ireland during the latter part of its involvement with the Post Office scandal.[43]
Fujitsu seem to have continued to be given huge contracts by the government. Can’t help but feel that it’s quite lucrative to be married to someone in government.

Now there is this

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12945147/horizon-tech-expert-post-office-scandal-immunity-public-inquiry.html

LovesBach

I too feel disgusted that it needs a TV drama to prompt an investigation. This distressing and cruel situation has been highlighted in the media for many years now; shame on those who have deliberately turned a blind eye.

This is exactly how I feel.
Typical!