The day the Queen died.

Joseann

But isnt that starting to sound like Charles laying out his reasons which Harry found nonsensical, and disrespectful? At a time like this, just say, "Sophie is the only wife coming, so not Catherine, not Meghan"

Harry is known for truth ?

If you were with your mother as she was dying you would agree to a daughter in law who mocked his mother to be there, they are a family. Let’s not forget a wise decision, Harry told the world what he said to his grandmother when he went to her deathbed

The Queen knew she was dying - was even unsure about Balmoral so as not to be an inconvenience. Is it not possible she had already said her goodbyes? A bit difficult with Harry and Meghan in the US

Sophie was the late Queen’s daughter-in-law, not granddaughter-in-law, as was Catherine and Meghan.

A much longer standing relationship, and probably much closer than either of the younger women.

Calendargirl over many years photographs of the Queen and
Sophie at the races etc.

Thinking of Megans mocking a curtesy to the Queen , what could she do re a deathbed

As usual Harry and Meghan have managed to make a sad national event all about them.

Glorianny

Cold

crazyH

And why did they tell Harry not to bring Megan? Just because Kate was busy with school duties, it doesn’t mean that Megan should keep away as well. Don’t understand that, unless I’ve missed something here …..

I don't think I'd want someone sitting by my deathbed who had accused me of racism, said that I had forced "generational pain" onto my children and grandchildren and had sold family gossip to Oprah (Omid Scobie, Netflix specials etc etc) while my husband, the Duke of Edinburgh was dying.

None of the other grandchildren went apart from William and Harry. I think the Princess of Wales agreed to step back rather than have King Charles having to deal with a "not fair" tantrum.

Why would any of the family trust her?

Question is why would Meghan even want to go when she obviously despised the Queen and was keen to sell nasty stories about her? Was it to sell the story for a Netflix special?

Perhaps Meghan wanted to support her husband as he stepped into the lion's den.
The Queen might have been dying, the rest of the people who bullied and threw them out were still there.

😂😂😂

Oh, purlease .....

M0nica

They did not tell Harry not to bring Meghan. Robert Hardman gives a detailed description of what happened in his new biography of King Charles.

To be honest, why should she be there? Other grandchildren and there spouses weren't there and both Harry and his wife had decided they didn't want to be royal anymore and had made a new home for themselves in the USA.

This is why.

merlotgran

Where was Princess Anne’s husband in all this?

Quietly, unobtrusively supporting his wife?

He is someone who knows how everything to do with the Monarchy works as well as being part of the family.

Joseann

I don't get it, not that it really matters. But Charles told Harry that, "No other wives were coming." So within the group, Catherine wasn't coming, Sarah F wasn't coming, but ..... Sophie Wessex was???

Daughter-in-law and a favourite of the Queen too.

Joseann

I agree * Lexisgranny*. The lines of communication between father and second son had long broken down, so pussyfooting around was not necessary. According to Harry, Charles starting saying discourteous things about Meghan. I have my doubts whether that is true, but in my opinion the conversation might have been a bit too nuanced.

According to Harry

Well, there we have it. 🙂

Very distressed man, whose beloved mother is dying and knowing what lies ahead for him, has to start explaining to petulant, demanding younger son just why not everyone will be there at the deathbed.

Quietly, unobtrusively supporting his wife?

He is someone who knows how everything to do with the Monarchy works as well as being part of the family

And he has the advantage of the press not commenting on his every move.

merlotgran

^Quietly, unobtrusively supporting his wife?^

He is someone who knows how everything to do with the Monarchy works as well as being part of the family

And he has the advantage of the press not commenting on his every move.

Because he doesn't court publicity.

If you were with your mother as she was dying you would agree to a daughter in law who mocked his mother to be there.
Oh gosh, that reminds me of DD's wedding, though obviously not quite as traumatic an occasion as someone dying.
MiL and her DD had never shown any interest in our children so I asked a friend to go ahead to the church and put the Order of Service with their names on and reserved seat cards further back than those of the godparents and bridesmaids' families. When I found had changed the seating and muscled their way to the front. Of course I was too well mannered to create a scene in the middle of the aisle, but their smirky faces still irk me to this day! 😡

*When I arrived, I found ......

Gloryanny I just find it offensive that the only acceptable role for a woman in the RF is to walk behind her husband and smile sweetly. It's the 21st century. Women mean more than that.

But didn't Prince Phillip do exactly the same thing? And Princess Anne's husband Vice-Admiral Timothy Laurence?

In the RF sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

I hadn't noticed Catherine walking two paces behind William and she often does visits, carries out duties on her own too.

What strange notions some people have.

I read that the reason Harry didn’t travel with the rest of them was because he was still arguing on the phone about bringing Meghan and missed the flight.

They were not far away yet couldn’t be bothered to visit the Queen. Suddenly she’s dying and they want to be included.

Harry stands behind Megan, if not she physically pulls him back

M0nica

Gloryanny I just find it offensive that the only acceptable role for a woman in the RF is to walk behind her husband and smile sweetly. It's the 21st century. Women mean more than that.

But didn't Prince Phillip do exactly the same thing? And Princess Anne's husband Vice-Admiral Timothy Laurence?

In the RF sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Well actually it's all pretty offensive, but worse for women. When you think of the cultures which have this as a normal occurrence. You would imagine that any organisation headed by a woman for so long would have adopted a more progressive attitude.
It's funny when you think about Anne-always outspoken-, followed by her rather dominated husband. She probably makes the decisions.
But Meghan is castigated for dominating Harry!!

I doubt that Vice-Admiral Sir Timothy Laurence is dominated!

Some men are strong, silent and are not whingers.

There's quite a difference between being dominated and allowing your wife to do her job in public while you are quietly supportive!

More daft notions 😂

The late Queen was meticulous in her skills of organising an occasion and following protocol. It is my belief she was equally meticulous about leaving instructions as to which family members would be at her death bed. I rather imagine, given that dying royals are no longer obliged to die in front of Uncle Tom Cobley and all, she was likely to specify her own children, especially the heir. After that, the grandchildren, again the heir apparent. Why on earth would recent wives need to be there? The woman had the right to die in peace and with dignity.

"Don't "admire" either of them. I just find it offensive that the only acceptable role for a woman in the RF is to walk behind her husband and smile sweetly. It's the 21st century. Women mean more than that."

yes and didn't the Queen be the "Queen" for a long time. It a nonsense that you have written. Women in the RF have high positions and are powerful.

pinkquartz

"Don't "admire" either of them. I just find it offensive that the only acceptable role for a woman in the RF is to walk behind her husband and smile sweetly. It's the 21st century. Women mean more than that."

yes and didn't the Queen be the "Queen" for a long time. It a nonsense that you have written. Women in the RF have high positions and are powerful.

So which woman (apart from the dead Queen) in the RF is "powerful"? How can an outdated, anachronistic, supposedly constitutional monarchy have any power? Aren't they supposed to be just a figurehead?
And any woman who does step out of line is soon thrown out.
Diana, Sarah Ferguson,(Until she was judged less threatening) Meghan (but Harry went with her)

Princess Anne.