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Sarah Everard on bbc iplayer

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Iam64 Tue 05-Mar-24 20:48:59

Just watched this. A difficult watch but excellent tv

Deedaa Wed 06-Mar-24 20:42:15

I never really saw anything of the vigil at the time, but I was appalled watching it now. Yes it was an illegal gathering, but the sight of all those men manhandling women armed only with candles was horrific.

Iam64 Thu 07-Mar-24 07:49:14

Deedaa it shocked even more given the reason for the vigil and the fact her murderer was a male Met officer. I lost all respect for Cressida Dick at that point

flappergirl Thu 07-Mar-24 09:09:10

Iam64

flappergirl, I don’t believe every officer is rotten, There’s clearly a huge problem with culture, with disgusting behaviour being unchallenged

Of course every officer isn't rotten but, as per my post, there is at least one a week being hauled up for something horrendous. That's a lot of coppers and they are only the ones that get caught or reported. There is obviously an endemic culture running through the police that makes them feel secure or justified in this vile behaviour. This will impact the "good guys" who will be afraid to speak out through fear of victimisation or bullying which ultimately will affect their ability to act professionally or will force them to quit.

Imagine working in an office where the hierarchy turns a blind eye to sexual assault, employees watching extreme porn on their computers or where jokes about rape, race or gays is the norm. Would you challenge it, would you leave? Probably the latter. Many former officers are now bravely speaking out saying they felt compelled to quit for these reasons.

Minerva Thu 07-Mar-24 09:28:29

My businessman father told us not to trust the police from his experiences in our south coast town with corruption among the local police right up to the top. They were exposed many years later.
Not heeding advice I dated a young policeman in the late 1950s and was shocked to discover that my father was correct. Corruption was laughed off as normal behaviour.
Of course there are good policeman who joined the force with the best of intentions but then at least they looked the other way if they wanted to keep their jobs.
I couldn’t watch the film about Sarah Everard. I wept for her but I have 4 teenager/young 20s granddaughters and I wouldn’t be able to sleep.

Cossy Thu 07-Mar-24 09:33:00

It’s utterly horrifying and a sad indictment on vetting processes!

I worked with some great police officers, know a couple socially and many of them are dedicated people undertaking a horrendous profession.

Galaxy Thu 07-Mar-24 10:34:59

I wonder if there is any research on personality type in terms of those men who choose dangerous jobs.
There are certain professions which attract a greater percentage of psychopaths for example, I think surgeons are near the top of the table.

justinsmith07 Thu 07-Mar-24 10:54:48

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Callistemon21 Thu 07-Mar-24 11:37:08

Reported.

Disgraceful on this thread. 😡

Delila Thu 07-Mar-24 14:02:51

Cossy

It’s utterly horrifying and a sad indictment on vetting processes!

I worked with some great police officers, know a couple socially and many of them are dedicated people undertaking a horrendous profession.

Me too Cossy - many are in it for the right reasons.

Deedaa Fri 08-Mar-24 20:14:14

Going back to the 1950s my godmother was a civilian worker at her local police station. When she entered a relationship with a divorced officer she had to leave her job because they couldn't be seen together at work. Things improved slightly when they got married and she could at least be seen to exist. What her husband would have thought of some of today's officers I can't imagine. He was so punctilious about doing things properly and keeping to the rules.