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David Tennant.

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kircubbin2000 Tue 25-Jun-24 20:50:52

Just seen a clip of him at a pride event where he wishes Kemi Badenoch would shut up and disappear. Then he says we should all be kind to everyone. Except women perhaps??

Sparklefizz Wed 26-Jun-24 11:21:40

Calendargirl

Too many ‘luvvies’ thinking their opinions are important to the rest of us.

I agree. .... and they are often hypocrites of the first degree.
It's the quickest way to put me off their "cause".

flappergirl Wed 26-Jun-24 11:42:17

There are so many nuances to this issue and absolutely nobody (in politics, the arts or the LBGT community) is discussing them in a measured way. The former are adopting the stance that women or anyone raising questions are homophobic, right wing dinosaurs. Some are of course, but the people I engage with and many other voices I've heard in the media are very far from it.

It simply isn't right that the most vocal amongst the advocates for trans rights are men who are not even trans themselves.

You cannot expect half the population (women) who have been subjected to thousands of years of misogyny, injustice and sexual violence to simply shut up. I can't help but feel that if we were any other demographic there would be proper consultation without the blanket autocracy and hysteria. we are witnessing.

Transwomen are a tiny, tiny minority and their existence realistically affecting our day to day lives is miniscule. However, it isn't non existent.

We all agree that transwomen should be free to live their lives as they wish, without harm or prejudice. As women we understand that only too well.

The problems arise when defining a transwoman. Can a man with a penis and superior strength to a woman just call himself female? Should he be able to access spaces at will or participate in any "women only" activity?

Whitewavemark2 Wed 26-Jun-24 11:48:16

The problems arise when defining a transwoman. Can a man with a penis and superior strength to a woman just call himself female? Should he be able to access spaces at will or participate in any "women only" activity?

That for me is the big issue. I think that you are perfectly at will to call yourself any gender you wish, but it will never change you chromosomes, and the implication of carrying these chromosomes for your entire life is what the whole debate is centred around.

Wyllow3 Wed 26-Jun-24 12:12:26

David Tennent wasn't helping anyone as far as I'm concerned with his remarks on Badenhoch.

Visgir1 Wed 26-Jun-24 12:16:37

Very disappointed in him, think his comments have backfired.

Tanjamaltija Sun 30-Jun-24 11:30:55

She is using the racist card, but that is not the issue. He said '... trans youth should not feel unloved or not accepted...'

Barrygirl Sun 30-Jun-24 11:33:37

NanKate

He is off my Christmas card list big time. 😝

Our grandmothers and further back fought for women’s rights, which are now being eroded. It is a disgrace in my opinion.

How are they being eroded? Yes, we need to go further but the vile attacks on trans people is not helping women's rights to move forward.

Jens Sun 30-Jun-24 11:43:24

Uff, one Person I can't warm too, he overacts in his work, looks smarmy, has an aura that just is all round nasty. If he's ever in a film or theatre or anywhere, I change channel, direction. Turn and leave, he's just one big yuck.

Mollygo Sun 30-Jun-24 11:44:13

Barrygirl
Vile attacks on females isn’t helping trans rights to move forward either.

Freya5 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:45:19

Whitewavemark2

He has a LGBT child. So Badenoch would not be his favourite person.

Hopefully tactical voting will sort her out.

Hopefully not. We don't need more Tennants in Government, following my leader.

Plunger Sun 30-Jun-24 11:48:13

Why do actors/ celebrities think we want to know there political/woke opinions? Some like to bring up certain politicians don't live in the real world - well you don't either! How much are Emma Thompson/ David Tennant worth? David Tennant-would you be happy for your wife to have to share a hospital room with a man who had all his bits? Basically, shut up.

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 11:59:52

Ditto Laurence Fox....

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 12:03:25

I can't imagine writing someone off people previously liked just like that because they have a different view on issues and express some frustration at a person negatively impacting their own child

I have to wonder how this plays out in people's real lives with friends and families etc

eazybee Sun 30-Jun-24 12:25:55

That is your problem, Violet Sky.
You lack imagination.

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 12:29:50

Maybe an autism thing, maybe I just find things to like about most people unless they are just genuinely horrible people

Athrawes Sun 30-Jun-24 12:30:44

Very disappointed with David Tennant. I suggest he sticks to acting

sundowngirl Sun 30-Jun-24 12:31:47

And now a male cast member of Frozen the musical is holding up a placard reading 'Protect Trans Youth With Your Vote!' Why can't they just all stick to acting and let us enjoy a night out at the theatre without bringing politics into it. Just because they can act, doesn't make them political experts

Ilovecheese Sun 30-Jun-24 12:33:17

I would certainly change my mind about someone I had previously admired if I discovered they had racist views. I would not necessarily stop watching them if they were an actor, or talking to them if they were an acquaintance, but I would certainly think about them differently.

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 12:33:28

Someone tell that to J K Rowling

Galaxy Sun 30-Jun-24 12:35:24

I changed my mind about DT years ago nothing to do with this issue. It's what adults do, when new information becomes known they change their mind.

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 12:35:30

There was an amazing trans actress in Doctor Who this season

Ilovecheese Sun 30-Jun-24 12:38:13

Yes, it's like Galaxy says, new information can lead to a change of opinion, and some things are a deal breaker.

Ilovecheese Sun 30-Jun-24 12:39:31

I do think that David Tennant is a very talented actor, he can act even with just his eyes.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:45:33

VioletSky

Someone tell that to J K Rowling

Would that be the JK Rowling who funds women only refuge's, good on her I say, especially as one of the heads of Scotland’s women refuge is a trans women, who has stated that women need to get over it

Wyllow3 Sun 30-Jun-24 12:46:26

Ilovecheese

Yes, it's like Galaxy says, new information can lead to a change of opinion, and some things are a deal breaker.

Used to like old runs of Lewis until I discovered what a nasty piece of work Fox is. OTOH like Judi Dench more than ever....