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David Tennant.

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kircubbin2000 Tue 25-Jun-24 20:50:52

Just seen a clip of him at a pride event where he wishes Kemi Badenoch would shut up and disappear. Then he says we should all be kind to everyone. Except women perhaps??

Witzend Sun 30-Jun-24 12:54:29

Callistemon213

growstuff

Callistemon213

I don't wish ill of her I just want her to shut up

Why? He won't.

I can think of multiple reasons why I wish she'd shut up, but I can't speak for David Tennant.

The voters have a choice regularly at the ballot box to choose whether they want to listen to politicians or not.

Seems with a lot of celebs that they think we value their political views.
Hurray for Sir Anthony Hopkins, how refreshing.

Emma Thompson’s oh-so-worthy lefty luvvieness can be exceedingly tedious, I must admit.

Oreo Sun 30-Jun-24 13:32:59

David Tennant has gone down in my estimation, firstly for publicly saying that a woman should shut up and also for accepting so easily that his nine year old son was ‘non binary’ and has the pronoun ‘them’. He’s a young boy who may turn out to be nothing of the sort.

homefarm Sun 30-Jun-24 13:44:43

Never been one of my favourites. I saw him in Hamlet a few years ago, he was absolutely dreadful. He evidently speaks without thinking just as he did in the play not word perfect.

undines Sun 30-Jun-24 13:55:50

I'm really disappointed. As for his 11 year old child, only on the edge of puberty, he/she/they should of course be listened to, but gently encouraged to postpone gender concerns for a while. IMO many - if not the vast majority - of young 'trans' people are struggling with body dysmorphia and the confusing effects of the LGBTQ+ culture, most of which is surely nonsense. I believe the figures show that young people who go down the path of sex-change have a higher incidence of depression, suicidal tendencies etc. than those who do not. I often think we are being infected by a kind of mass madness even to entertain some of this stuff, put forward by a tiny, ultra-assertive, disturbed minority who are guilt-tripping us about our natural biology.

kircubbin2000 Sun 30-Jun-24 14:25:06

I think the mother is a lot to blame. She refers to the boy as 'they/them' and has paraded him on social media dressed in rainbow wings and frilly rainbow dresses at pride events. He has just turned 11 and will be easily indoctrinated at this age. What must his classmates think!

Sparklefizz Sun 30-Jun-24 14:26:08

And those photos will be on the Web for ever!

Marmin Sun 30-Jun-24 14:27:11

I think you would probably be quite surprised by what his classmates think.

knspol Sun 30-Jun-24 14:35:36

eazybee

Kemi Badenoch:
"I will not shut up. I will not be silenced by men who prioritise applause from Stonewall over the safety of women and girls."

Another talented actor who has allowed accolades for his undisputed acting talent convince him he is an authority on other unrelated subjects.

I agree very strongly with Badenoch's quote re safety of women and girls.
As for Tennant, he should stick to acting. Good actor and this gives him access to wide audience in which to espouse his views but it doesn't mean they should be listened to any more than the man in the street.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 14:42:21

How can that not be viewed as child abuse kirkcubbin angry.

BeverleyJB Sun 30-Jun-24 14:57:09

This odious luvvie does not just think that a woman, or anyone else who disagrees with him, should shut up. Like the majority of TRAs, he seems to think it's OK to incite or threaten violence. Only last week there were photos posted of him wearing a T-shirt with the so-called trans flag and wording that said terfs would “have to go through him” in relation to the rights he seems to think his son doesn’t have and that he’s supposedly being prevented from having by pesky wimmin standing up for themselves.

There is no such thing as as trans child - any child who claims to be non-binary has been groomed to believe so.

Personally, I find it incredibly difficult to separate someone's artistic output from who they are as a person. It's true - when someone shows you who they are, believe them.

I won't watch Tennant any more. No longer watch Dr Who anyway due to R T Davies' appalling scripts and his views, including trying to push those views on young children. Ecclestone was by far the better Dr Who, but has stated that he won't consider returning to the role unless RT Davies & his TRA pals are sacked.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 15:02:32

I'll never watch him again either Beverley I don't think my stomach would be strong enough.

suelld Sun 30-Jun-24 15:08:58

I actually had no idea who she was so looked her up and having done that…I think I’m on David Tennant’s side here…

“ As Minister of State for Equalities, Badenoch opposed plans by the Financial Conduct Authority to allow trans employees to self-identify in the workplace, and opposed gender-neutral toilets in public buildings.

In 2021, Vice News received leaked audio from 2018 in which Badenoch mocked gay marriage and referred to trans women as "men".

In 2023, Badenoch gave a speech before the House of Commons in which she announced regulations stripping the ability of transgender migrants from certain countries to acquire documents in the UK to match those brought from their countries of origin. This was stated as being due to these countries allowing trans people to transition "too easily".[88] Badenoch went on to announce the government's plans to move forward on a conversion therapy ban, while saying that gender affirming healthcare for young people who question their gender was "a new form of conversion therapy" designed to turn gay children transgender, further stating that a draft bill would address the concern that clinicians are "fearful of giving honest clinical advice to a child because if they do not automatically affirm and medicalise a child's new gender they will be labelled transphobic". She further announced plans to ban social transition in British schools, claiming the existence of an "epidemic" of children being told they are transgender as the reason.”

suelld Sun 30-Jun-24 15:16:36

flappergirl “We all agree that transwomen should be free to live their lives as they wish, without harm or prejudice. As women we understand that only too well.”

I agree, but the problem is that many actually Don’t!!!!

Galaxy Sun 30-Jun-24 15:22:47

Transwomen are men. The cass report has raised serious concerns about what has been happening to children, and social transition is now not seen as a neutral act. Many many countries are rssing concerns about non evidence based treatment of these children. Single sex spaces are important to many women, so concern about gender neutral facilities is also valid.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 15:29:26

I don't agree with not allowing trans employees to self identify in the workplace or for opposing gender neutral toilets in public places. I would only agree with the latter if women's toilets were to be made gender neutral leaving men's toilets unaffected, which is sometimes the case resulting in far fewer
women only facilities.

With regard to the rest of your post suelld the devil is in the detail. I have my own concerns about people being able to transition 'too early' and am particularly concerned about self identifying and the ease with which GRC maybe obtained.

I share her concerns that gender affirming healthcare is a new form of conversion therapy and can believe that clinicians are fearful of giving honest and clinical advice to a child because if they do not automatically affirm and medicalise a child's new gender they will be labelled transphobic.

One only has to look at any of the trans gender threads here on GN to see how often accusations of transphobia and exclusion are bandied about.

I also agree that social transition should be banned in British schools and there does seem to be an epidemic of transgender children.

Soniah Sun 30-Jun-24 15:53:39

He's not off my Christmas card list, her voting record on the majority of issues is deplorable such as voting against laws to promote equality and human rights, against improving water quality and most other environmental issues, against everything about constitutional reform, I won't go on but look it up if you are interested

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 15:54:48

kircubbin2000

I think the mother is a lot to blame. She refers to the boy as 'they/them' and has paraded him on social media dressed in rainbow wings and frilly rainbow dresses at pride events. He has just turned 11 and will be easily indoctrinated at this age. What must his classmates think!

What's wrong with any child wearing dresses or wings?

Children at school gravitate towards their interests, even as young as 4, they make their own choices on that one... I applaud parents who let them be themselves rather than telling them "boys do this and girls do that". That's indoctrination

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 15:58:43

What's wrong with any child wearing dresses or wings that isn't the issue though is it VS.

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 16:00:51

Smileless2012

^What's wrong with any child wearing dresses or wings^ that isn't the issue though is it VS.

What's the issue then? Being at Pride?

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 16:07:24

Read kirkcubbin's post @ 14.25 VS. You may not see any harm being done but I do.

VioletSky Sun 30-Jun-24 16:11:06

Smileless2012

Read kirkcubbin's post @ 14.25 VS. You may not see any harm being done but I do.

Can you explain please?

Being at Pride, dressing up... Seems all good to me, it's a great day out?

Whethertomorrow Sun 30-Jun-24 16:12:55

My 7 year old grandson has hated his willy since he could first speak at age 2. He has two other brothers who do not feel the same. He looks exceedingly female with a delicate little face. He likes wearing female clothes and female toys. His friends at school call him by a girls name he chose. My son and daughter are supporting him whilst being baffled by his choices. They have neither supported or denied his thoughts and actions.

Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 16:14:36

Seems all good to me yes I thought it would so there's really no point in discussing it any further.

Crossstitchfan Sun 30-Jun-24 16:16:29

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Smileless2012 Sun 30-Jun-24 16:20:43

A hate campaign shock has anyone said they hate DT? Just because a lot of people are in agreement about a particular issue Crossstitchfan doesn't mean they're like a lot of sheep.