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Schofield Cast Away Channel 5

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Bea65 Tue 01-Oct-24 10:24:11

Viewed this but turned off … he’s so self indulgent..says it was an unwise decision but IMO it was an inappropriate decision and really feel for his wife and girls.. what do others think?

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 14:00:13

That's my point Doodledog there is no evidence that PS groomed this young man. I agree that it isn't possible to say either way without insider knowledge but that hasn't stopped the speculation.

Clearly those with the inside knowledge are unable or unwilling to say which is why for me, the entire saga has been a witch hunt.

Many of those who worked with him disliked him, so was the condemnation at the time because they thought the accusations could be true, or because they wanted them to be.

MissAdventure Tue 01-Oct-24 13:58:29

I don't know why he left this morning.
I thought it was because of his relationship with the young guy?

Doodledog Tue 01-Oct-24 13:47:20

MissAdventure

I've no problem with Schofield.

Older men having younger lovers isn't unheard of.

He's not the first, and won't be the last.

I agree with this. Nobody's business but theirs.

But that is not why he left This Morning.

Smileless, where could evidence have been presented if not at ITV? There was no court case. As the evidence they heard was not made public it is not possible to say whether there was anything damning or not without insider knowledge.

MissAdventure Tue 01-Oct-24 13:32:13

I've no problem with Schofield.

Older men having younger lovers isn't unheard of.

He's not the first, and won't be the last.

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 13:29:18

I would think that regardless of whether or not anyone would want to work with him, is the risk any tv channel would be taking because of public opinion.

We only have to look at the reaction to Castaway to see that he's probably not a good bet as far as ratings are concerned, and let's face it ratings are what matters.

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 13:24:27

I don't know what was presented to ITV Doodledog and haven't claimed to know, but I do know there's no evidence that he groomed the young man in question and I don't agree that not doing the right thing and reporting his brother, should be regarded as 'evidence' that PS groomed this young man.

I'm not suggesting that you've said so BTW, but it has been suggested by others.

I met Eamon and Ruth a few years ago and liked them, Eamon in particular, but find his constant rants about PS unedifying and not a good look for Eamon at all.

Doodledog Tue 01-Oct-24 13:10:37

Smileless2012

^Older man is accused ........^ yes Doodledog PS was accused and no evidence has ever been presented to show that this was the case.

arrogant, haughty, unpleasant and rude are not reason enough to effectively destroy someone's career and he wasn't alone when he queue jumped the Queen's lying in state, Holly Willoughby was with him.

How do you know what was presented to ITV? Of course there was evidence that the boy had been given roles. Another runner was sacked to make room for him, he was at the TV awards, which is not an opportunity usually given to runners, and when the story threatened to break he wasn't sacked (from a usually precarious job) but transferred to Loose Women. Eamon Holmes has spoken about the way he and Ruth stepped in to look after him.

Schofield's personality was definitely one of the things that destroyed his career. Nobody spoke up for him and/or offered him new roles, which they could have done if people had wanted to do so. As the C5 programme shows, he hasn't been banned from TV - it's just that nobody wants to work with him. Whose fault is that?

The business with his brother and what he knew about it could be called 'unfortunate', but equally it could be seen as feeding into the accusations given that PS didn't come forward when he was told what had happened.

Holly hasn't had a lot of work either. I don't think that she came out of any of this well, but there were no direct accusations against her, and no obvious victims.

Iam64 Tue 01-Oct-24 12:57:54

My impression is of a duplicitous narcissist. I don’t believe he was thrown under a bus, he seems incapable of reflecting on his own part in his downfall.
I haven’t watched the programme and don’t intend to. What I’ve read suggests he snipes at Holly W and complains about colleagues and itv. Given HW recent dreadful stalking experience and the sentence the man received, it would have been wise just not to talk about it. Wisdom doesn’t seem to be part of his makeup

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 12:49:14

Older man is accused ........ yes Doodledog PS was accused and no evidence has ever been presented to show that this was the case.

arrogant, haughty, unpleasant and rude are not reason enough to effectively destroy someone's career and he wasn't alone when he queue jumped the Queen's lying in state, Holly Willoughby was with him.

Doodledog Tue 01-Oct-24 12:43:16

'Man has affair at his work' is not news, and not in the public interest. We don't know (and it's none of our business) whether his wife was fully aware of the affair, and it is between them in any case. Rylan was famously unfaithful to his husband and continued as a presenter, and there will, by the law of averages, be numerous others who have done, and are still doing likewise.

'TV presenter is gay' is not news either. Again, Rylan is out and proud, and is very popular, rightly in my opinion.

'Man who is portrayed as a family man on a family show and turns out to be less wholesome than he pretends' is incompatible with being a presenter of This Morning, in the same way as Angus Deayton could no longer present a show that satirised people's sexual peccadilloes after being caught out himself.

'Older man is accused of grooming a boy and having sex with him at the same time as giving him sought-after opportunities in show business' is bringing the reputation of ITV into disrepute.

Coupled with the fact that other presenters are on record as saying that Schofield is arrogant, haughty, unpleasant and rude, that his popularity was in decline after queue-jumping at the Queen's lying in state, and that other rumours have been circulating about him for years, his position was untenable. If he'd stayed, someone would have come forward with more damaging information.

I caught the first episode last night and found it self-indulgent and tedious. I can't bear PS though, so wasn't disposed to be sympathetic.

Allira Tue 01-Oct-24 12:10:18

I’m wondering too about the runner. One could look at this from two angles, runner was groomed, or runner was using Schofield.

Again it's the balance of power which is an issue.

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 12:09:38

You're right Cossy his wife (they're still married) and family have stood by him and like you I wouldn't have an issue if he resumed his tv career.

As I posted earlier, people don't have to watch do they.

Allira Tue 01-Oct-24 12:08:42

Sparklefizz

^And I don't believe for one moment that he was completely alone on that island.^

I'm sure you're right, otherwise his insurance would be sky high.

I think Man Friday was waiting amongst the trees.

Allira Tue 01-Oct-24 12:06:19

Athrawes

This 'show' should not have been shown at all in my view. Why did they make this programme in the first place? He should be quietly thinking what he has done and certainly kept away from television. I didn't watch it

Why do they keep advertising it on the main news?

It's not news.

Just as, every evening, ITV advertises Emmerdale!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 01-Oct-24 12:03:02

I would have given him a second chance until the details of his brother’s trial were made public.

He should have gone to the police as opposed to telling his brother to stop which his brother did not.

His keeping quiet makes him complicit in his brother’s crimes in my book.

There is no way I will watch his pity party

Cossy Tue 01-Oct-24 11:39:57

Athrawes

This 'show' should not have been shown at all in my view. Why did they make this programme in the first place? He should be quietly thinking what he has done and certainly kept away from television. I didn't watch it

I would have no issue if he came back into TV as a presenter etc. plenty of others have survived scandals etc and returned to earning their living in their chosen profession.

Not so sure this TV programme was a wise move for him or those airing it!

Cossy Tue 01-Oct-24 11:37:34

RosiesMaw2

I have read the reviews -but life is too short to give any time to listening to his entitled twaddle- and wonder whether the programme is designed as the self hammered- in final nail in his coffin?
Hoist with his own petard?

Yup!

Cossy Tue 01-Oct-24 11:37:12

Smileless2012

I didn't watch it and wont be doing so but have seen clips.

I agree that his decision to pursue a relationship with the young man was inappropriate but I also agree with what he says about being 'thrown under the bus'.

It was a consensual relationship which the young man's mother, who if I remember correctly he's estranged from, had an issue with and not the young man himself.

If people don't want to watch this they don't have too, but I don't have a problem with anyone who was so brutally and unfairly treated IMO by the press, social media and colleagues who he'd worked with for years in some cases, having the opportunity to make his story available for anyone who wishes to hear it.

I agree, I’m unsure of whether to watch it, my understanding is Schofield’s ex wife and family (I’m assuming they are separated?) have been fully supportive of him, but I do feel sorry for him.

It was an awful thing to do to his wife and family, however many men and women are unfaithful to their spouses and don’t get it all played out in the public arena.

I’m wondering too about the runner. One could look at this from two angles, runner was groomed, or runner was using Schofield.

All rather tawdry.

RosiesMaw2 Tue 01-Oct-24 11:19:08

I have read the reviews -but life is too short to give any time to listening to his entitled twaddle- and wonder whether the programme is designed as the self hammered- in final nail in his coffin?
Hoist with his own petard?

MissInterpreted Tue 01-Oct-24 11:16:36

Sparklefizz

^And I don't believe for one moment that he was completely alone on that island.^

I'm sure you're right, otherwise his insurance would be sky high.

Exactly, the health and safety risk assessment alone would be a nightmare!

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Tue 01-Oct-24 11:08:54

Self indulgent twaddle probably. I won’t be watching.

Sparklefizz Tue 01-Oct-24 11:06:53

And I don't believe for one moment that he was completely alone on that island.

I'm sure you're right, otherwise his insurance would be sky high.

MissInterpreted Tue 01-Oct-24 11:03:01

We did watch it, out of curiosity, but I felt it was a complete pity-fest. Schofield comes across as a total narcissist and in all honesty, I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. And I don't believe for one moment that he was completely alone on that island.

Athrawes Tue 01-Oct-24 10:54:38

This 'show' should not have been shown at all in my view. Why did they make this programme in the first place? He should be quietly thinking what he has done and certainly kept away from television. I didn't watch it

Smileless2012 Tue 01-Oct-24 10:54:19

I didn't watch it and wont be doing so but have seen clips.

I agree that his decision to pursue a relationship with the young man was inappropriate but I also agree with what he says about being 'thrown under the bus'.

It was a consensual relationship which the young man's mother, who if I remember correctly he's estranged from, had an issue with and not the young man himself.

If people don't want to watch this they don't have too, but I don't have a problem with anyone who was so brutally and unfairly treated IMO by the press, social media and colleagues who he'd worked with for years in some cases, having the opportunity to make his story available for anyone who wishes to hear it.