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The brother of Manchester Arena terrorist attacks three prison officers today.

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FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:19:40

Awful.
Attacked them by throwing hot cooking oil over them (beggars belief he was allowed access to that surely) then stabbed them with various implements.

Just now in the Telegraph:
“One of the Islamist terrorists behind the Manchester Arena bombing has allegedly attacked three prison officers with weapons and cooking oil in a high-security jail.

Two officers suffered life threatening injuries after being attacked in HMP Frankland in Durham by Hashem Abedi on Saturday, in a case that will raise questions about security measures in Britain’s prisons. Abedi is serving life for 22 murders in the Manchester Arena bombing.

The officers suffered burns and stab wounds when Abedi threw hot cooking oil over them before using home made weapons to stab the guards, the Prison Officers Association union said.

One of the officers was said to have been stabbed in the face and throat and had to be airlifted for emergency surgery at the James Cook University Hospital in Middlesbrough. A second officer is still being treated in hospital. The third, a female officer, was released after treatment.”

Wyllow3 Sun 13-Apr-25 14:36:15

It has, Nano14 - this report from Cambridgeshire just 4 days ago

www.cambs.police.uk/news/cambridgeshire/news/2025/april/vicious-attack-towards-prison-officer/

I'm guessing that the ratio of prisoners to staff and overcrowding has got a lot worse - making close observation of patterns of behaviour much harder to monitor.

Being locked up for long periods of time with no exercise or activity at all because of lack of safe ways to do this makes bad into worse. I don't think he did this specifically because he was an "Islamist" but because he is a combination of very ill and very evil, frankly.

A sociopath of whoever origin can pretend to have "improved" behaviour wise (I can't imagine any other reason he was allowed in the kitchen).

Nano14 Sun 13-Apr-25 14:14:11

Wyllow3

Not just terrorists - any violent prisoner as dangerous as him it has to be mostly solitary confinement/cuffing when the one hour exercise alone and so on.

Yes, I agree serious assaults are quite common in prisons.

There were 10,281 assaults on staff in the 12 months to June 2024, a 30% increase from the previous 12 months, and a new peak. In the latest quarter the number of assaults on staff increased by 2% to 2,655 incidents. The rate of serious assaults on staff increased by 24% to 11 per 1,000 prisoners (974 incidents) in the 12 months to June 20.

Nano14 Sun 13-Apr-25 14:08:39

He was working in the kitchen, unbelievably!

Franski Sun 13-Apr-25 14:04:18

I had a beloved dog who started getting erratic and snapping at visitors. It got to the stage where we had to have him put down. Or he would have stayed locked up, in a muzzle and away from people, and a constant worry. For his sake and everyone else's. I am not a proponent of capital punishment, but honestly this case makes me wonder what the difference is between my dog and this dangerous man. Not revenge just mercy all round.

Wyllow3 Sun 13-Apr-25 12:55:06

Not just terrorists - any violent prisoner as dangerous as him it has to be mostly solitary confinement/cuffing when the one hour exercise alone and so on.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 13-Apr-25 12:52:52

From the Mail:

“The prison officers are stable after receiving life-threatening injuries when they were assaulted by Hashem Abedi at HMP Frankland, County Durham, yesterday.”

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sun 13-Apr-25 12:43:40

Terrorists have all day and every day of sometimes exceptionally long sentences to observe staff, routines and weaknesses and carry out pre-meditated attacks. Prison staff dealing with them must be lucky every day, and that is an unacceptable burden.

Primrose53 Sun 13-Apr-25 09:40:54

What criminals like him need is to be imprisoned in a bulletproof glass “cage” for the rest of his life. Robert Maudsley, also known as Hannibal the Cannibal has lived in one for many years at (I believe) Wakefield Prison.

It’s no good giving him extra length to his sentence as he is already serving 55 years.

AGAA4 Sun 13-Apr-25 09:31:08

I don't understand how such a dangerous man was given access to weapons. Hot oil and knives can kill.
He was complicit in killing many innocent people some only children.
Who in their right mind allowed him to work in a kitchen.

love0c Sun 13-Apr-25 09:08:00

This is just the sort who should be in solitary! And your family have to pay for your upkeep. If no money available, then bread and water!

Iam64 Sun 13-Apr-25 09:05:24

I don’t understand how a prisoner with this man’s history was allowed anywhere near hot oil.

Sarnia Sun 13-Apr-25 07:57:47

He needs to be in solitary without privileges for the remainder of his sentence. I suppose some idiot lawyer will argue that would be against his human rights. I don't support capital punishment but something like this makes me reconsider.

Toetoe Sat 12-Apr-25 23:31:40

Vile creature, sling him in to solitary for the rest of his sentence.

Allira Sat 12-Apr-25 22:19:19

It beggars belief.

Is it because of his human rights that he is allowed near such potentially dangerous weapons as hot oil, knives? It was reported on the news that the knives were home-made. How?

Security needs to be tightened up for such prisoners even it means solitary for a very long time.

Oreo Sat 12-Apr-25 21:23:52

Throw him in solitary.

Oreo Sat 12-Apr-25 21:22:55

Iam64

As my governor friend said, cooking facilities a constant risk

Then don’t let the swine near it!

Allsorts Sat 12-Apr-25 21:14:42

We, the public have to pay for this monster. How he came to be anywhere near hot oil or knives I don’t know, for the rest of his sentence keep him in a cell, if he destroys it let him live in it. Thoughts are with the people injured.

Iam64 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:59:10

That’s right friedGreenTomtoes, nothing to lose and clearly a dangerous violent man. He conspired with other terrorist prisoners and attacked officers in Belmarsh prison where previously held.
Franklin takes high security prisoners. Where next I wonder

Annapops Sat 12-Apr-25 20:58:40

I once taught there, part time, many years ago. Scares me when I think about it now. I do hope those officers will be OK, although it sounds like their injuries will be horrendous. What an evil man Abedi is.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:53:18

Iam64

As my governor friend said, cooking facilities a constant risk

Then prisoners ought not to be allowed to do it!
Sheesh.
Such liberties …

He’s been sentenced to 55 years.
Now he probably thinks ‘why not? what they gonna do to me anyway?’

He’s got nothing to lose has he?

Allira Sat 12-Apr-25 20:43:55

mae13

Why was he allowed to get his hands on hot cooking oil?

Was he working in the kitchen?
Hot oil? Knives?
Surely the prison staff should have more sense than to allow him access to such weapons?

I hope the prison officers will recover. ☹

Blinko Sat 12-Apr-25 20:43:38

Makes you think of the days when prisoners were kept manacled to a wall - and they didn't need to be particularly dangerous.

Iam64 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:42:42

As my governor friend said, cooking facilities a constant risk

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:40:12

You’d wonder that - at the very least - wouldn’t you?

mae13 Sat 12-Apr-25 20:38:50

Why was he allowed to get his hands on hot cooking oil?