How come they were able to pull the wool over so many eyes for so long?I hadn’t bought the books and won’t be doing now.
Terrible relationship with DIL - am I the problem?
I think there have been quite a few discussions on GN about the book since its publication. We went to see the film this afternoon, mixed reviews, not an overwhelming 5 stars from some critics. I loved it, found it very affecting in the portrayal of the depth of Ray and Moth's relationship, a rock solid marriage facing insurmountable problems, losing their home, subsequently made homeless, related in flashbacks. Practically penniless bar the meagre weekly benefit they received drawn along the way, whilst they set off on what would seem an insane challenge given Moth's serious and rare illness. Set backs en route, not least of all the elements wreaking havoc on their flimsy tent whilst they undertake the daunting, but beautiful south west coastal walk, I love that part of the world one of the reasons that drew me to the book in the first place.. Fantastic acting particularly from Gillian Anderson and Jason Isaacs ultimately uplifting.
How come they were able to pull the wool over so many eyes for so long?I hadn’t bought the books and won’t be doing now.
Weirdly enough, I got a bad feeling about this from the start. I never read the book nor watched the film.
I suppose they were very clever....they appealed to a certain audience. Perhaps capitalising on peoples' desire to have hope and a feel good story.
There are parallels with Captain Tom.
Anyone read the latest from The Observer ?
Have just read article from The Observer written by Chloe Hadjimatheuo “The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were spun from lies, deceit and desperation”
I enjoyed both book and film and then i read the above!
Big question mark!
His real name being Tim....TiMOTHy
I just thought that many of the decisions they made were stupid and the mistakes they made en route could have been avoided. Which also made me think that was why they lost their house. I still enjoyed reading it, though. From being an avid reader I struggle with getting through books these days but did read it quite quickly. She is a very talented writer. Wouldn’t surprise me if this story doesn’t make the National news today as it’s taken off everywhere.
The real Salt Path: how a blockbuster book and film were ... share.google/Sgx6aBdNi2uaYgi1o
See the link I have posted above. I haven't read the book or seen the film, though I was looking forward to seeing it! I'm not sure what to think now! 🤔
i have not read every message here but in the ones I have seen am surprised to see no reference to the story in the Observer yesterday - they have talked to a number of people who are saying from first hand knowledge that some key things in the books are not accurate. This includes why they lost their home - a very different picture emerges where Raynor and Moth are not victims at all and Raynor got them into trouble by theft from her employer and then borrowing from a relative, who himself became bankrupt. If what the paper is saying is untrue no doubt the publisher and/or Raynor Winn (not her real name - but many writers use different names) will sue. I liked the books and have felt uncomfortable at the new picture suggested by the Observer article.
Like lafergar , I didn’t buy into the book. A lot of things didn’t add up, not least her “very sick” husband. Not the sort of thing you’d do in the circs…
I’m not at all surprised to find out that it was more fiction than autobiographical, and pleased that my disbelief was well founded.
Thread on Mumsnet linked to a newspaper expose...the lady in salt path frauded her employer of sixty four thousand pounds then did a runner. Their house was being repossessed as they couldn't pay a loan so they launched a raffle to sell it ( presumably unlawfully)but it was repossessed by a debt company before they could do that . All very dodgy. I tried to read the book but found it tedious.
I do think it's really awful if what has been said in the Observer is true, shocking behaviour. But... there are a lot of people being very judgy here. Can you all maybe just take a look at yourselves - how honest have you been throughout your lives? Have you ever hurt anyone? Taken advantage? Okay, this is large scale deceit and they will definitely need to make amends, but maybe we should all look at our own lives and think about how we can be kinder people and not just jump on the bandwagon of criticism when an opportunity arises.
Nellygran
His real name being Tim....TiMOTHy
Of course 😁
Duh!!
Nellygran
I do think it's really awful if what has been said in the Observer is true, shocking behaviour. But... there are a lot of people being very judgy here. Can you all maybe just take a look at yourselves - how honest have you been throughout your lives? Have you ever hurt anyone? Taken advantage? Okay, this is large scale deceit and they will definitely need to make amends, but maybe we should all look at our own lives and think about how we can be kinder people and not just jump on the bandwagon of criticism when an opportunity arises.
I have never stolen from anyone and it's really rather outrageous to suggest that other Gransnetters might have acted in a similar way to this couple, even on a smaller scale.
Their story is a work of fiction. They fled from the police and broke the man they stole from.
The least they could do now that they have made so much money is to offer to repay his widow (with interest) and all the other people they stole from along the way.
I’m giving this one a miss. I did want to see it, and read the book. However I have read a couple of articles and seen a report online that paint the whole story in a very different light. I know there’s always a bit of artistic freedom in this sort of thing. As others have said, I might watch it on Netflix or whatever, but by then we may know more of the truth of it.
You might find this link interesting!
observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit
Um I posted the link to the Observer article on here at 0830 yesterday! 😂
You all need to read this, it seems their entire story is a pack of lies based on embezzling money, even including the medical diagnosis
observer.co.uk/news/national/article/the-real-salt-path-how-the-couple-behind-a-bestseller-left-a-trail-of-debt-and-deceit
Oh I’m so glad to see it’s not just me! Found the book tedious, annoying and disingenuous - I didn’t get past the first few pages. Thought I’d try the film because I felt maybe I was missing something. I love Gillian Anderson and know the SW coast path too, so really hoped I’d enjoy it. Sadly both I and DH found it tedious, annoying and disingenuous in the film version. Even the lovely scenery didn’t lift it for us. Rare for us to recommend NOT watching a film but this is on our list I’m afraid. Don’t bother. Go for a nice walk instead 😁
There was an investigative article in a Sunday newspaper this weekend, I think the Observer, saying that the author was dishonest about how they had lost their home. She had defrauded her employer in Wales of large sums of money over a number of years and when this was discovered, she borrowed money from a friend to pay back the money she had stolen in order to avoid criminal proceedings against her. When the friend died she had to pay back this debt and that was how they lost their home. There is also apparently doubt among medical experts about her husband's illness.
The book, the film and now the CD!
www.gigspanner.com/shop/details/saltlines
Have you all read the latest on Ray and moth?
Saying they are really sally and Tim walker and sally/ray stealing money from her employer, changed their names.
They owned a home in France
She never turned up at the police station the day after been arrested.
Did read the book but somehow didn’t quite add up.
Don’t know what to make of latest allegations.
Looks as if articles from The Observer already picked up on
Will be interesting to see what comes out further.
Read the article in The Observer as all is not what it seems with this couple. I read two of her books, didn’t fancy the film and queried why he has survived so long!!!!
Not sure if you’ve read the book judging by your comments and suspect you are not speaking from experience regarding homelessness. Believe me you cannot present yourself to the local council and be given a home - those days are long gone. My niece - a single parent was evicted from her private rented property because her landlord could get a higher rent from a new tenant. There is no safeguarding against rogue landlord behaviour such as this. My niece and great niece are now homeless and relying on family and friends to safeguard their belongings and provide somewhere to stay. 1000s are finding themselves homeless through no fault of their own. The welfare state cannot cope with demand. The cinder path is a heartwarming story of love and adventure and I found Ray and Moth to be strong and inspirational characters who overcame the dire circumstances they found themselves in. Highly recommend reading Landlines which is the follow on from the Salt Path.
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