Masterchef - going, going, gone?

When I was a child, my father went abroad on business. He brought me back a doll that definitely wasn’t white! No-one I knew had one like her and I was the envy of my friends. No-one seemed upset by the colour. In fact it wasn’t mentioned, but everyone I knew wanted her! In those days my beautiful doll would have been referred to as ‘black’. I dressed her in a lemon dress and thought she was the most beautiful doll I had ever seen. So did my friends.
What has happened to the world?

What is being widely reported now is that he sang a Kanye West song at a social gathering that contained the "N" word.

If that's true, it's somewhat double standards that the BBC allowed said song ~(and many others with dubious lyrics) to be played on their radio stations.

I think not renewing a contract because someone repeated a song in a social setting is out of order.

But as I say, that's if the reporting is correct.

Bluecat

If it was "the N word", it was as offensive 7 years ago as it is today. It is hardly a case of the times they are a-changing.

As I understand it the N word is only offensive when used by white folks.

It is used often and repeatedly in Gangsta Rap and Grime songs.

So he says.

I don’t like Masterchef.
Or the others named shows🤗

Granmarderby10

*TEN MINUTES!* 🗣️ ..this is what comes to mind when I think of Masterchef.
Can’t reach the mute button fast enough me!
Ditto Eastenders, The Apprentice, Dragons Den, Casualty (dead but won’t lie down) Mrs Browns Boys.

All heavily advertised by the Beeb plus Masterchef has spin-off shows so does The Apprentice.
What’s to like.

I'm a bit lost - what is it you're saying Granmarderby?

TEN MINUTES! 🗣️ ..this is what comes to mind when I think of Masterchef.
Can’t reach the mute button fast enough me!
Ditto Eastenders, The Apprentice, Dragons Den, Casualty (dead but won’t lie down) Mrs Browns Boys.

All heavily advertised by the Beeb plus Masterchef has spin-off shows so does The Apprentice.
What’s to like.

Crossstitchfan

Thanks Mollygo. I shall take your advice and not worry too much. I can only do my best!

If you get it wrong, profuse apologies and a lesson learned. My memory won't hold all the changes but I do my best.

Thanks Mollygo. I shall take your advice and not worry too much. I can only do my best!

Crossstitchfan,
Thats all in a typical day. What was OK yesterday won’t be tomorrow.
What is OK to some people, is offensive to others, but even that may have changed by next week.

Life’s too short for studying an ever changing pattern of what’s offensive to whom.
Don’t worry.

You could seek to educate yourself.
There must be multiple resources online.
Plenty of free ones.
You know what they say.
Ever day's a school day.
That's what keeps us young.
Learn something every day.

Doodledog

I've just thought of a better way to say it - would describing someone white as 'a colourless person' feel offensive? It's the same thing in reverse, with dark skin as the default, and the colour of 'white' skin as lacking something.

Probably, because everything is seen as offensive nowadays. All I know is, it’s all getting ridiculous now and some people are seeing/hearing insults where none exist.
The other day, I was chatting to my adult daughters, and came out with what I thought was a totally normal, well-used and inoffensive word. I can’t even remember now what it was! I was told that apparently that word is totally offensive now. So my worry is, if I don’t even know if a word has become offensive since I last knew it, how will I avoid coming out with the wrong thing? It’s all getting beyond a joke.

Richard Osman recalls that Torode used the worst racial slur and was asked at the time to take a year off and do some re-training to educate himself on what was/wasn't not acceptable. Apparently he declined. So to say he doesn't remember what he said is a little disingenuous. If he did use the worst or any racial slur, for that matter, then he shouldn't have been asked to take a year out, he should have been instructed to do that and to follow a diversity course. What's also interesting I think is that he must have stood by as Wallace was behaving inappropriately and not been perturbed by it. Perhaps what we have here are two men who are so full of their own importance that they've lost touch with the real world, of what's acceptable behaviour and what isn't. This isn't wokery, I can imagine there's more to come out.

When all the facts are exposed., we can make a more accurate judgement on this case.

Granmarderby10, obviously you watched it!!

I don't watch it so not invested in who presents it. I understand JT used a racial slur 7 years ago. Just wondering why wasn't that addressed at the time

I have misophonia and I’d have sacked him years ago for biting the fork and slurping soup.

I utterly dislike JT and GW…….they always shouted.They didn’t speak ,they yelled! Oafs!

Well said Crossstitchfan

I think some people are confusing Masterchef and Masterchef the Professionals.

Marcus Wareing and Monica Galetti have only ever appeared as one-off guest judges on Masterchef. However, they head up Masterchef the Professionals alongside Greg Wallace. I haven't seen anything about his replacement so far on that.

I don’t think so, from what I’ve read, he said he had already filmed the next series with Grace Dent along with two Christmas specials, but each series is commissioned separately. He also said nobody had contacted him from Banijay subsequently,, so it sounds as though there is no contract in place for future series. Happy to be corrected though, I’ve just tried to piece together what exactly has happened from the media.

If it was "the N word", it was as offensive 7 years ago as it is today. It is hardly a case of the times they are a-changing.

He was already commissioned for a series as far as I understand it but was told he wasn't wanted now, Casdon.

Am I wrong in assuming that not renewing somebody’s contract for a series is not the same as sacking them? They are not employees of the TV companies, they are freelance. It happens all the time in TV.

henetha

It's so unfair to sack John Torode for some remark made years ago which he can't remember anyway, and possibly didn't even say.
I hope Masterchef continues with John and a new presenter.

He’ll probably be offered a better job by one of the other channels. Unlike his copresenter who was lewd and creepy.

Haven’t watched the programme for some time as it often seemed the “winner” was picked out well in advance.