Martin Clunes as Huw Edwards

Anniebach

Is mental illness always an excuse ?

It could be a reason.

Did anyone watch the interview with Tomes (Huw E’s publicist) buy Suzanna and Ed balls? It’s on utube.

Annie seems like it!

Did HE ask Tomes to represent him?

Huw Edwards sounds just like my family member who blithely felt that he was a good person who had made a terrible mistake after a tragedy...which he caused by his earlier terrible mistakes! He can't understand why the whole family has cut him off but that is because he is a complete narcissist who has no real understanding of empathy.

PamelaJ1

Did anyone watch the interview with Tomes (Huw E’s publicist) buy Suzanna and Ed balls? It’s on utube.

Annie seems like it!

Unfortunately yes I watched it.

The publicist appears to be more deranged and self centred than Hugh Edwards…

Quote icanhandthemback Thu 26-Mar-26 09:56:10
Huw Edwards sounds just like my family member who blithely felt that he was a good person who had made a terrible mistake after a tragedy...which he caused by his earlier terrible mistakes! He can't understand why the whole family has cut him off but that is because he is a complete narcissist who has no real understanding of empathy.

Are you quoting HE or Clunes in the drama ?

I'm incensed that mental illness is being used for excusing this monster's behaviour. You don't suddenly become a sexual predator and put another human being, who was obviously a very troubled lad, through such a disgusting and depraved experience. Thankfully, apart from the cringeworthy moment when Huw Edwards was pleasuring himself at his computer, we were spared the other details, but you can only imagine what that lad went through.

He had an unhappy home life, with a bully of a stepfather, and he was looking for kindness, love and affection. Unfortunately he got Huw Edwards who bullied him and abused him even further.

I can't imagine that anyone would want to hear his side of the sordid story. He needs to disappear from the public eye and keep his grubby excuses to himself. His wife was quick to divorce him, his children must be mortified by their shameful father, he should be thankful not to be locked up in prison, and just shut up 🤐.

TheSunRisesInTheEast

I'm incensed that mental illness is being used for excusing this monster's behaviour. You don't suddenly become a sexual predator and put another human being, who was obviously a very troubled lad, through such a disgusting and depraved experience. Thankfully, apart from the cringeworthy moment when Huw Edwards was pleasuring himself at his computer, we were spared the other details, but you can only imagine what that lad went through.

He had an unhappy home life, with a bully of a stepfather, and he was looking for kindness, love and affection. Unfortunately he got Huw Edwards who bullied him and abused him even further.

I can't imagine that anyone would want to hear his side of the sordid story. He needs to disappear from the public eye and keep his grubby excuses to himself. His wife was quick to divorce him, his children must be mortified by their shameful father, he should be thankful not to be locked up in prison, and just shut up 🤐.

A post that says it all.

HE pleasuring himself in front of his computer or Clunes in a fictional drama pleasuring himself in front of his computer?

Tomes also mentioned that Edwards is well within his rights to keep the £200.000 of taxpayer's money that the BBC paid out to him. Tomes said he would do the same thing in Edwards's shoes.
!!!

That money should have gone to the victims.

He really is manipulative.

Some of us on here, including me, have personal experience of mental health issues. It can of course manifest in different ways. The fact that this creep jumped straight on that bandwagon makes me angry.

Anniebach

Quote icanhandthemback Thu 26-Mar-26 09:56:10
Huw Edwards sounds just like my family member who blithely felt that he was a good person who had made a terrible mistake after a tragedy...which he caused by his earlier terrible mistakes! He can't understand why the whole family has cut him off but that is because he is a complete narcissist who has no real understanding of empathy.

Are you quoting HE or Clunes in the drama ?

HE issued a statement and now Tomes is apparently backing that up. I wasn't actually quoting either but I was referring to their public statements in that HE sounds like he is making excuses for his vile behaviour. Whether the drama happened as it was shown, HE was charged and convicted of keeping images of child abuse and making them so I don't believe he has any reason which can make me feel sympathy for him. He knows right from wrong and he was wrong.

The fact that many judge mental illnesses as “jumping on the bandwagon” makes me both angry and sad

I haven't watched it and have no intention to do so. It just seems wrong. 😔

Annie. I know you have experience if this sadly. I have been to hell in a handcart with my mental health and my own brother didn't survive his trauma. I certainly don't judge all mental illness this way. However, I do believe in some cases it is a bandwagon, an excuse after being caught out. I don't believe for one minute that HE' s behaviour was due to an illness. Just my opinion.

Kate thank you, I did remember the pain mental illness caused you and I am so sorry. I don’t know if HE had a mental illness, his wife said he did, some illnesses can take years to develop, this is a fact

I think the mental health defence might get more sympathy if it were applied to 'ordinary' people as much as to those in positions of power and influence. IMO, people in those positions should be held to higher standards because of the possibility that they will use their position to influence others. Teachers, for example, are expected to abide by strict rules when it comes to behaviour around young people, and I think that should apply to celebrities too.

I realise it's complex, but if someone on HE's salary has MH problems they can pay for help to control their urges. Also, high profile employees can often negotiate a sabbatical so they don't have the pressures of work on top of their problems. It's very different for those on minimum wage in insecure work, but the impression is that they would be left to their own devices and treated much more harshly by the law. That, plus the fact that celebrity status often protects people (see also Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc) and gets them access to people who trust them because they feel as though they know them, makes the whole situation more difficult.

It is of course very plausible that HE suffers from depression, either previously or as a reaction to the chaos that descended on him when his actions were disclosed and made public. And it sounds as though he is receiving treatment for this which is as it should be.

I too, like many others, have had a depressive episode in my life and know how difficult this can be.

The question of course is whether his depression could have triggered his grossly unacceptable behaviours and in any way is an explanation or excuse.

People who are psychotic can behave in unacceptable, irrational and sometimes dangerous ways - this is well known. But depression does not normally cause this and these sort of behaviours manifest in a totally different way during a flare up of psychosis. In depression they do not cause the systematic long term behaviour of child abuse, exploitation and dishonesty and it is hard on those suffering depression to have this implied at all.

HE may have been suffering depression, perhaps triggered by closet homosexuality, but it is not an excuse for his behaviour.

TheSunRisesInTheEast

I'm incensed that mental illness is being used for excusing this monster's behaviour. You don't suddenly become a sexual predator and put another human being, who was obviously a very troubled lad, through such a disgusting and depraved experience. Thankfully, apart from the cringeworthy moment when Huw Edwards was pleasuring himself at his computer, we were spared the other details, but you can only imagine what that lad went through.

He had an unhappy home life, with a bully of a stepfather, and he was looking for kindness, love and affection. Unfortunately he got Huw Edwards who bullied him and abused him even further.

I can't imagine that anyone would want to hear his side of the sordid story. He needs to disappear from the public eye and keep his grubby excuses to himself. His wife was quick to divorce him, his children must be mortified by their shameful father, he should be thankful not to be locked up in prison, and just shut up 🤐.

Spot on ^

Thank you Annie. I know what you've been through also.

TheSunRisesInTheEast

I'm incensed that mental illness is being used for excusing this monster's behaviour. You don't suddenly become a sexual predator and put another human being, who was obviously a very troubled lad, through such a disgusting and depraved experience. Thankfully, apart from the cringeworthy moment when Huw Edwards was pleasuring himself at his computer, we were spared the other details, but you can only imagine what that lad went through.

He had an unhappy home life, with a bully of a stepfather, and he was looking for kindness, love and affection. Unfortunately he got Huw Edwards who bullied him and abused him even further.

I can't imagine that anyone would want to hear his side of the sordid story. He needs to disappear from the public eye and keep his grubby excuses to himself. His wife was quick to divorce him, his children must be mortified by their shameful father, he should be thankful not to be locked up in prison, and just shut up 🤐.

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Kate1949

Thank you Annie. I know what you've been through also.

🥀🥀

Thoughts posted on this thread shows knowledge of mental illness is no different to the 50’s, “ what has he got to be depressed about “ ,
Even criticism of a man who may have struggled with depression for years

Kate1949

*Annie*. I know you have experience if this sadly. I have been to hell in a handcart with my mental health and my own brother didn't survive his trauma. I certainly don't judge all mental illness this way. However, I do believe in some cases it is a bandwagon, an excuse after being caught out. I don't believe for one minute that HE' s behaviour was due to an illness. Just my opinion.

Quite agree. We may be unwell but we do not lose our sense of morality.

Anniebach

Thoughts posted on this thread shows knowledge of mental illness is no different to the 50’s, “ what has he got to be depressed about “ ,
Even criticism of a man who may have struggled with depression for years

I don't doubt he has mental health issue but even people with health issues know right from wrong. Had he not had that capacity, his defence would have made much of that lack of capacity.