At the risk of being shot down

Cossy

Aveline

Super. But I reserve the right to judge. I'm human. It's what humans do no matter how deplorable some people think it.

I don’t think it’s deplorable, I just find it odd!

I find it normal and am very judgemental of what many people wear.
My only mitigating factor is that I don’t, unlike my slightly deaf mother, shout my comments out loud.

I thought the presenters were so much better last night , wasn’t keen on the gold outfit , it definitely wasn’t a dress but Johannes is great at talking to the contestants , no matter what he’s wearing ,
I like seeing who is improving , there are some stiff ingainly ones who blossom and some don’t
The presenters are not the main ingredient of the show ,

Gosh, what did I miss last night while childminding? Will watch it all tonight.
I love the dancing and the beautiful outfits and the progress each couple makes.
If you enjoy all of that, but don't like the 'extra bits', then simply press pause, get on with something else, then fast forward to the performances.

Men in frocks, women in trousers, frankly I couldn't care less about what people wear, I'm much more concerned about how they behave. I've met a couple of men that have transitioned and they were decent law abiding people with respectable working lives who had undergone difficult and painful treatments to become more comfortable in their own skin. They were not a threat to anyone and just wanted to be able to get on with their lives. It's a pity we can't all "live and let live". I used to enjoy "Strictly" and "Bake off" but tbh I can find things to watch these days that are more enjoyable, but each to their own.

I am not bothered about a guy in a frock. For me it’s all the inane chatting by those silly compares.
I couldn’t even tell you who’s running the show now.
Anyway no license so I can’t watch it, which is no bad thing.

I agree with lots of comments here, the main one being that the dancing content is too minimal and dumbed down. It's all a bit cheesy, and the technique takes second place. The judges irritate me, I liked Darcey Bussell, and the new presenters aren't brilliant.
I've also been away galavanting recently so haven't really got into this year's show, which makes me think I'll probably no longer bother.

JenniRen

^Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.^

Whether the show will carry on in its present format is another matter, or indeed at all.

I have read that the presenter line up and format will be the same for the next series.

the whole changing sex palava is another matter but that’s just because I find it hard to understand
Thst's because it's not possible unless you are a fish or an amphibian.

Men in frocks don’t bother me, the whole changing sex palava is another matter but that’s just because I find it hard to understand, however, I don’t watch weekend telly, is usually tracky and too loud, so can’t comment on Strictly, I prefer to read or listen to music.

It's been quite hard to watch this year and I keep wishing Tess and Claudia were still presenting. The new line up is not right and I'm beginning to feel sorry for Josh as he looks like he'd rather be somewhere else.

Something is missing that made Strictly the special show that it used to be.

Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.

Whether the show will carry on in its present format is another matter, or indeed at all.

TerriBull

I didn't watch last night so can't comment. However, I think it's a reasonable opinion to think the whole format could do with an overhaul. We were avid viewers at one time, it was always synonymous with the run up to Christmas. Occasionally I'll have it on on my laptop whilst I'm preparing our Saturday evening meal to which my o/h will say something like "you're not still watching that" well not with much enthusiasm. Like a lot of people, I'm only interested in the dances and the rest of the content is so overloaded with nonsense. For example those stupid skits that form a preface to the dance is the first item I'd get rid of they're really annoying. It's definitely time for an overhaul, the dancing content is too minimal as an overall percentage of the time allotted to the programme.

I agree with Terribull

The whole programme has got out of hand, OTT and turned into a parody of itself.
The judges often look ridiculous, they should maintain some professionalism.

Does anyone remember Come Dancing? My mum a keen ballroom dancer used to watch it.
I've never really enjoyed ballroom dancing and don't like all the hysterical shrieking that goes on in Strictly so have only watched parts of it on BBC breakfast.
If you don't like it it's easy these days to find something else.

I agree Johannes comes across as a bit OTT, in his dress, his speech and his mannerisms.

But I think he has adjusted to his new role well.

He brings a different vibe to ‘upstairs, his dancing expertise and empathy comes to the fore in his comments to the contestants, and his impromptu ‘turns’ with them are entertaining.

Whether the new line up will carry on into next year is another matter.

I really miss Johannes’ dancing. I enjoyed his performances the most.

Both

That goes with ways

Aveline

Super. But I reserve the right to judge. I'm human. It's what humans do no matter how deplorable some people think it.

I don’t think it’s deplorable, I just find it odd!

Well said Graphite 10:53

To not want to watch a TV which you don’t enjoy is absolutely fine.

Ridiculing and insulting an extremely hard working and mega talented performer for his “costume” is quite another.

I didn’t much care for Emma’s outfit last night, she’s worn much nicer things, more to my taste, but her choice of dress doesn’t affect her great presenting skills. Another person who has worked extremely hard to get where she is and manage a family and a husband who has certainly given her challenges, in my humble opinion, is to be applauded.

Don’t like Strictly? Don’t watch it.

I cannot stand this plethora of reality shows we have like Love Island and Big Brother, and many others, I simply don’t watch them. The people might be great people, but as I don’t watch it and know nothing about it, I neither comment nor judge them.

Never watched but like Josh very much so gave it a go. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a presenter looking so uncomfortable.

Every one is entitled to their opinion
But I like Jo Jo, His dance knowledge is excellent and enjoyable to hear when he's talking to the contestants. Whereas Motsi (IMO) just waffles on.

I also enjoy his flamboyant clothing.
I remember watching Danny La Rue as a child and im a massive Bowie fan. Its art and dance

What a strange post

Super. But I reserve the right to judge. I'm human. It's what humans do no matter how deplorable some people think it.

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Joannes Radebe is not “floating around”. He’s co-presenting a popular TV show which is as much about flamboyant costumes as it is about the dancing. Did anyone ever say Tess or Claudia were “floating around”?

He’s known for his style. If you look at a line up of the presenters and the judges each week, if anyone looks out of place dress-wise, it’s Josh.

Skirts are very much part of traditional African male clothing and more common now in gender fluid dressing. So what?

The 2003 MMA exhibition Bravehearts was all about the history of men in skirts.

Designers and fashion houses represented in that exhibition included Miguel Adrover, AmeriKilt, Giorgio Armani, John Bartlett, Ozwald Boateng, Bodymap, Leigh Bowery, Burberry, Roberto Cavalli, Christian Dior Haute Couture, Comme des Garçon, Dolce & Gabbana, Dries van Noten, John Galliano, Jean Paul Gaultier, Rudi Gernreich, Tom Ford for Gucci, Tommy Hilfiger, Juicy Couture, Donna Karan, Kenzo, Michiko Koshino, Sandra Kuratle for AMOK, Andrew McKenzie, Alexander McQueen, Moschino Couture, Philip Sallon, Paul Smith, Stuart Stockdale for Pringle of Scotland, Anna Sui, 21st Century Kilts, Utilikilts, Walter van Beirendonck, Vivienne Westwood, and Yohji Yamamoto.

Chestnut

Oreo

Well, in a country where Grayson Perry is lauded and celebrated done up as a little girl I would say we may well have gone past the point of no return.Where men say they are women and that they have a lady penis.Where women who complain about men in their changing rooms or are put on a mixed hospital ward when ill and vulnerable are told nothing can be done and to shut up.
Where kids in school can claim they’re a cat and want respect from teachers, or where teachers can be suspended or fired for forgetting pronouns.
A bloke flouncing around in a gold dress is small potatoes.

👏👏👏 Oreo, you have summed it all up in a nutshell. The madness of modern life.

Spot on Oreo

Oreo

Well, in a country where Grayson Perry is lauded and celebrated done up as a little girl I would say we may well have gone past the point of no return.Where men say they are women and that they have a lady penis.Where women who complain about men in their changing rooms or are put on a mixed hospital ward when ill and vulnerable are told nothing can be done and to shut up.
Where kids in school can claim they’re a cat and want respect from teachers, or where teachers can be suspended or fired for forgetting pronouns.
A bloke flouncing around in a gold dress is small potatoes.

👏👏👏 Oreo, you have summed it all up in a nutshell. The madness of modern life.