Very angry about this!!

Well done Frida there is much too much bad practice going on in corporate companies as well as the so called, caring profession. I have been sent to coventry by a few who did not like me 'grassing' on a person using bad practice and vulnerable people were at risk. Its a horrible feeling but, as others have said, you have your self respect and dignity in tact which is more than can be said for the others.

Good for you Frida for your courage. We need more people like you!

Ceesnan I don't at all agree with cathy's opinion but I don't think it should be suggested that she would be better keeping it to herself. I was trying to clarify what she meant.

There are also many times when whistle blowing occurs in private lives.

I do get frustrated when a Gransnetter says something contentious, and I support their right to do so, but when challenged by others refuses to comeback and explain their views. There could be a very good reason for their posting which would change our views of them that might, as a result of the posting be a bit or even change our attitude to the subject.

Cathy, where are you?

You're talking about cathy's strange contribution? I agree.

EloeYes I do of think that police who mistreat suspects and healthcare workers who deliberately neglect or manhandle their patients SHOULD be reported 100%

cathy That's what I thought - I couldn't imagine you were condoning that sort of wrongdoing. I don't suppose anyone feels comfortable "grassing" on their colleagues (and, in the process, possibly being treated as an outcast) but if a whistleblower didn't "grass", then such behaviour would continue.

Perhaps you meant something else?

Cathy reminded me of some of the people that I worked with when I was a whistleblower on a health and safety issue.
We had a situation where I knew the glue that was being used was dangerous ( printing industry)
The people that I was working with were so afraid of their jobs that it seemed they would rather become Ill than see the company close down.

Cathy I find your response quite disturbing. So if you see a child being abused, or a granny beaten - you think it is best to walk away and keep stumm?

granjura I think cathy was saying that she did think those sorts of abuses should be reported - she must have meant something else.

I think if someone is working in a situation where they can see things happening that are wrong, it is very brave of them to bring it out into the open.

However, I think the behaviour of policemen who infiltrated protest groups and formed sexual relationships and friendships with the people they were spying on is pretty indefensible.

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PS granjurs I have reported your post

Your words Cathy:

ok well, well done, personally I am not too keen on whistleblowers/grass/spy

So what is the difference between somebody who whistleblow re a granny being badly treated in a OAP home, a hospital, the street or a private home? Same for children?

Reported MY post - when YOU are calling me an idiot and my stupidity. How daft.

I think if you'd explained yourself properly when you first responded, cathy, none of this 'misunderstanding' would have happened. What were people supposed to think? And, for the record I've recorded your 'reply' to granjura which I thought was downright rude.

Cathy I have read your recent response and I'm glad you think certain people should be reported, but am still puzzled by your first response:

personally I am not too keen on whistleblowers/grass/spy

It was THAT response that I was seeking clarification for.

Ok I think I should obviously clear this up

Were I come from being a whistle blower means telling tales on your friends

I was not aware that whistle blower meant anything other than that.

There, lets now hope this will be an end to it..

Maybe you should have read the whole thread rather than just the gist, and you'd have realised what was being talked about honestly flipping heck

I may be wrong but I think on another subject, cathy mentioned she was Mediterranean, if English isn't her first language that would possibly explain her confusion over the term 'whistle blower'.

Really Sel? cathy seems quite au fait with many of our other colloquialisms and certainly very fluent in the English language. I stand to be corrected, of course - perhaps you could let us know, cathy.

Dear Ana what the heck does colloquialisms mean, have you swallowed the dictionary he he.

Stop picking the bones.... I have no desire to get into an argument with you My Mumma taught me better than that

Please do not expect any more responses to your wallyness as there will be none

Thanks cathy - your explanation helps.

On a lighter note: Cathy, could you explain, wallyness; I've never heard that before. Is it Northern/ Southern/ Scottish?

'grass' I thought only criminals used that word - whistleblowers are a brave bunch and as Greatnan says it's a shame that there wasn't one at the Staffs hospital. They also aren't spies as cathy suggests, perhaps she doesn't understand the true meaning of the word.