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Government wants to coax over 50s back into work

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biglouis Sat 24-Dec-22 13:08:32

The government is blaming a large part of the labour shortage on the fact that many people over 50 have been "economically inactive" since the pandemic. They are hoping to persuade many in this group back into the workforce.

There is a strong possibility that some over 50s will have to re-enter the job market part time because of the COL crisis. However employers are going to have to alter their ideas about what to expect from older workers. For roles which are very physical you cannot expect a 50-60 year old to have the same physical stamina as (say) a 25 year old.

There is also the factor that some older people who may return to work will find themselves pulled into a higher tax bracket because of the stealth tax changes. There would be little incentive for them to formally re-enter the job market of they are going to be hammered by PAYE.

henetha Tue 27-Dec-22 11:34:26

Not if you plan it properly. It helps if you have a little private pension, living economically, and leave the investment alone so you can buy a home eventually.
I know someone who did this three years ago and is truly happy away from a very demanding job which almost ruined his health.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 27-Dec-22 11:49:31

We retired early and after a year when my health had become stable we went travelling for 4 months every year over the winter. We still kept our home and funded it from living expenses. By going in the winter months we were saving on our unities, Christmas spending and socialising and to top it all the exchange rate was good. It’s no good buying a motor home at some point you are going to have to stop travelling.

DaisyAnne Tue 27-Dec-22 12:20:46

Katie59

Looking the ONS graphs it’s the contrast between the UK and other nations who have had far more return to work that stands out, also the number that see themselves at long term sick in the UK after Covid.
Is long Covid a serious problem in the UK but not elsewhere?.

It's possible but I imagine the destruction of the NHS has more to do with this figure.

Aveline Tue 27-Dec-22 12:37:18

Is it possible to find out long Covid stats for other countries?

Casdon Tue 27-Dec-22 12:40:54

Long term sickness in 50-65 year olds is a red herring in this context, as it’s gone up by less than one percent since the onset of the pandemic (figure 14 in the report refers).
There is a rise in people who have been economically inactive for more than 5 years, but that group is the hardest to reach in terms of returning to work, so arguably is just following the trend that was already there.

As I said in an earlier comment, according to the report it’s important to note that the baseline for economic inactivity was and remains lower than average.

Barmeyoldbat Tue 27-Dec-22 14:56:42

If it’s lower than average why the push to get the 50 plus back in work, ….

Fleurpepper Tue 27-Dec-22 14:58:24

Aveline

Is it possible to find out long Covid stats for other countries?

Long Covid, like ME - is very difficult to prove.

Aveline Tue 27-Dec-22 15:12:32

Fleurpepper I'm sure it is. I'd just be interested to find out if long Covid is an international outcome or is confined to just UK. We'll never know if course.

Norah Tue 27-Dec-22 15:14:58

Barmeyoldbat

If it’s lower than average why the push to get the 50 plus back in work, ….

Indeed.

The Government want to coax, people do as they wish.

growstuff Tue 27-Dec-22 15:23:35

Aveline

Is it possible to find out long Covid stats for other countries?

www.who.int/europe/news/item/13-09-2022-at-least-17-million-people-in-the-who-european-region-experienced-long-covid-in-the-first-two-years-of-the-pandemic--millions-may-have-to-live-with-it-for-years-to-come

mokryna Tue 27-Dec-22 16:14:25

At 69 because of Brexit, not to lost points earnt in the UK which the French pension adds to my French pension, I had to retire. However, I kept working but I was taxed so much it was incredible. I had to stop work 18 months later because of covid and the tax bill fell.

Nurseries should be free from the age of 3 so that mothers/ fathers can go back to work without the weight of charges. (I know certain do not agree but it works in France 8am-6pm). This would help people with young children..

There are many healthy refugees willing to work, as soon as they land they should be given ID cards allowing them to earn money to support themselves. Some are qualified in their trades including medical. Have them sit an exam and let them fill the unoccupied jobs.

Aveline Tue 27-Dec-22 17:08:10

17 million with long Covid. Blimey. That's a lot of people out of the workforce across Europe. It's says something about Covid itself. sad

Callistemon21 Tue 27-Dec-22 17:12:29

Aveline

17 million with long Covid. Blimey. That's a lot of people out of the workforce across Europe. It's says something about Covid itself. sad

My friend has been diagnosed with it, it is debilitating. She is retired anyway but is getting physiotherapy. I've had similar symptoms to hers but her GP surgery is far more aware and caring than ours.

Grantanow Mon 23-Oct-23 12:48:49

Research into organ damage shows long Covid is real despite Johnson's outrageous comment on an official brief.

Katie59 Mon 23-Oct-23 13:16:43

At 64 I work because I want to, usually 3 days a week and I’m expected to do the same work as younger staff, I’m lucky I have the health to do that. The money is always welcome, the perks are good, management are efficient and I enjoy working with younger staff.
If I didn’t enjoy the work it would be different and I completely understand those that don’t want to.

Blossoming Mon 23-Oct-23 14:19:31

hello

Well I know why it doesn’t work on my iPad, now I just need to work out how to fix it!

Blossoming Mon 23-Oct-23 15:28:49

Eek, wrong thread.