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Calling in sick 2 weeks into a job

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Shangela123 Sat 29-May-21 08:34:01

I've posted about it before, it's a care home.
They are incredibly short staffed due to people off sick, quitting or being on holiday. As a result, they're ringing up staff on their days off and holidays trying to get them in.
I'm contracted for 3 night shifts a week but I was told I'd be given 4 for the first 2 weeks. It seemed a lot, but I'd told myself it would only be for these 2 weeks.
They needed extra staff yesterday so I have worked a 16-hour night shift, from 3pm-7am.
I am expected back tonight from 9pm-7am, same again tomorrow night, and I did Wednesday night.
I feel like absolute death, so ill and i actually collapsed this morning at 4am and hit my knee on the floor.
I feel terribly sick, plus I have awful hayfever.
I can't see myself doing another 2 night shifts on the run.
All this for minimum wage, plus me and other staff have stayed late after every shift.
This morning the manager came in, barely even looked at me despite knowing I'm new and didn't thank me for doing 16 hours for them.
It seems poor taste ringing in sick already but I feel rotten, 46 hours in a week and 16 hours with 3 night shifts is really difficult conditions. What would hou do ?

welbeck Sun 30-May-21 23:32:44

Shangela,
why don't you try to do domiciliary care; contact a respectable agency like Bluebird and find out.
where you are at the moment is not a good place.
get out of there.
and join a union. GMB have been v supportive of careworkers.
you have to stand up for yourself; don't endure rubbish situations. step by step, you can improve things. good luck.

Dickens Sun 30-May-21 21:35:38

Hi all - just joined.
I agree with 'Lollin'. I doubt your health and welfare is their top priority and, should you make a mistake whilst working - because you can't focus on what must be a pretty stressful job - it will be on your head.
I had a home visit by a nurse the other day and she told me she'd been asked (by a private firm contracted to the NHS) to take on another patient at the end of her shift who lived miles away and she was so stressed and tired that she refused (this nurse and I have known each other for a long time, and we 'chat'). Her reason - and you might find this useful - was that she didn't feel safe enough to do the drive nor the procedure that was required at the end of it. She'd already worked on her days off to plug yet another 'gap' in the system. No-one can argue with you if you say you are ill and don't feel safe to do the job - they're hardly likely to demand that you turn up, regardless.
I think you need to look for something else, care work is very demanding - and poorly paid. And, it seems, the more you 'oblige' the more they will put on you.

Babs758 Sun 30-May-21 10:46:36

It sounds like the staff are continually old sick for a good reason! I feel sorry for the residents. You have done the right thing by going in and explaining clearly what you can and can’t do. In my area of Surrey there is a great shortage of care staff and there must be a better place for you to work. Hope you will get a better job with some training. Keep looking :-)

Polarbear2 Sun 30-May-21 10:37:48

I’d talk to your manager. Ask for unpaid leave. It’ll sound better and I’d doubt you’ll get sick pay anyway. Explain honestly that you thought you could cope and wanted to help but found you couldn’t. It might be that once you’re into your ‘groove’ you can manage more. The first weeks in a new job are exhausting as there’s so much to learn and do. Be genuine but don’t just phone in sick with no discussion. It looks bad and it’ll stick with you. Try to find a solution with your manager. Good luck.

Lovetopaint037 Sun 30-May-21 09:28:02

I think you should ask to speak to the Manager. My dd manages a care home with complex needs and I have heard her speak to staff when she has been on the phone. She is always thanking them for their efforts and would consider the staff’s well being a prime part of her responsibility. Everything depends on staff so explain you need to adjust your hours as you are feeling really ill.

FannyCornforth Sun 30-May-21 07:50:34

Hello again Shangela
I'm glad to hear that you are feeling better and have come up with a good solution.
It sounds like an awful place to work - the management appear a bit clueless to say the least.
I hope that you find a better job soon.
Wishing you all the best

Shangela123 Sat 29-May-21 19:05:50

I've decided I'm going in as I've had a long sleep and feel better, but then I will tell the management that I will do a maximum of 2 night shifts a week.
It's a vicious circle, staff are off sick because they're likely overworked and stressed from having low staffing numbers. There are no agency staff used apparently.
I was talking to a lady who said she worked 9 days in a row without a day off, it does concern me that the management are happy for people to overwork themselves just to have a body in the room essentially.
Thanks for all the replies

Hithere Sat 29-May-21 16:31:35

I would call in sick and look for another job immediately

I would also look at placing a formal complaint for the work conditions.

ElderlyPerson Sat 29-May-21 14:36:08

As well as looking after your own health, please remember that the patients are vulnerable. If due to a carer being unwell and/or tired out and drained and making a mistake as a consequence of that, it could potentially result in injury to a patient and the carer getting into trouble, perhaps even ending up in court.

You mention falling. What happens if you were to get that problem during helping a wobbly elderly patient to move from bed to toilet or wherever.? You could both end up on the floor.

It might be best to log being ill with your doctor, though that might be difficult as it is Saturday.

In reply to your original question. If someone is unwell, it is immaterial how long they have worked there. So you would not be being unreasonable. It is possible that the employer might tell you that you are being unreasonable, but that does not mean that it is unreasonable.

You are a human being. Sometimes human beings get ill. If they did not, our culture would not have doctors, nurses, hospital, sick notes, pharmacies, pandemics, and so on. Such concepts just would not exist.

Millie22 Sat 29-May-21 14:21:30

Quit immediately. Please put your own health first or you'll not be able to work at all.

Mattsmum2 Sat 29-May-21 14:09:09

Sounds like if you can you need to find something else. The home look like they depend on the good will of the staff to make up the hours they can’t cover because of sickness or people leaving, but do not treat their people well enough or probably pay enough to not have this problem. It’s a perpetual circle that will never break unless things change. I have never worked in a care home and have only seen them from a relatives point of view and my heart goes out to all those trying their best to cope with work and home life. Until the welfare of the workers and conditions improve I’m afraid this will continue until there is a breaking point and the home will close causing untold hurt to the vulnerable residents and those who care for them. I wish you well in the future but you must put yourself first. Take care x

BlueBelle Sat 29-May-21 13:58:25

I don’t think this is the job for you ‘Shang’ it is hard work it is long hours and it is low pay I did it for 8 years I loved the work but it takes its toll when you’re bringing up three kids alone as I was
I loved working with the old folks, I suppose I m one now, and hearing their amazing stories when we tucked them up into bed at night but you may be better working for a local
authority care home if that’s really the work you want to do
You would hopefully get some training because you sound as if you’ve had none at all from your other thread Yes dementia is very hard to work with and these people need specialist care they will cry and shout and swear and abuse and ask you the same thing a hundred times you really do need to know how to handle all this and from your previous posts you don’t

Are you young and taking on a first job or are you just taking what you could get in these difficult times
I would start looking elsewhere as soon as possible

Silvergirl Sat 29-May-21 12:54:07

If I was you I would just do your contracted 3 shifts and tell them “due to other commitments that’s all that I can offer”. Say it calmly but firmly. That’s what they get the big bucks for, solving staffing issues. I have been in a similar situation and I came to realise that my health meant nothing to them. I know it is hard but you can do it. Good luck.

cornishpatsy Sat 29-May-21 12:51:03

I don't think this is the job for you. Long hours and short notice when people go off sick are usual in care homes.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-May-21 12:38:06

grannylyn65

Why do people say ‘you posted this before ‘
Do you want a medal for observation!9

No.
The reason that I mention it is to acknowledge that I am aware of Shangela's other problemsr regarding her workplace and also her homelife.
It shows that I remember her and know a bit about her backstory.
The intention was to be friendly.

grannylyn65 Sat 29-May-21 12:29:14

Why do people say ‘you posted this before ‘
Do you want a medal for observation!9

Shinamae Sat 29-May-21 12:23:41

I work in a care home and luckily it’s nothing like you described. We do get people calling in sick but manage to cover without people doing ridiculous hours. All you legally have to do are your contracted hours. It does sound like a rubbish place to work so if I was you I’d be looking for another care home,you will always get a job in care. Just to say I have been at my care home for 2 1/2 years and absolutely love it... good management and staff make a world of difference

FannyCornforth Sat 29-May-21 12:17:18

You say that this morning you collapsed and fell; you are definitely not fit to work, especially in your role.
You also say that you feel very sick - do you have a bug? Another reason why you shouldn't be working with very vulnerable older people.
If you are that ill that you are collapsing - you need to find out what's wrong

grandtanteJE65 Sat 29-May-21 12:03:20

You are ill, so ring in and say so. No reason to tell them it is hay fever.

As soon as you feel a little better start looking for another job.

The conditions are unlikely to improve where you are, and no one will thank you for ruining your own health by allowing yourself to be persuaded to work in unreasonable conditions.

MiniMoon Sat 29-May-21 10:15:35

I've been there. I was a RMN working 3 night shifts per week 8pm - 8am. Sometimes having to stay late when the day staff nurse couldn't get to work for whatever reason, then going home and having to come back for the next night shift.
It does wear you down.
The home must have an agency they can call on to provide extra staff , where I worked they also had bank staff to call on when they were short.
I would call in sick as you have a genuine reason. Your health and wellbeing come first.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-May-21 09:58:18

Do you know what their CQC rating is?
You've posted before about various issues at your workplace.
I wish that you would respond more so that we could advise you properly, please don't take that the wrong way smile

Redhead56 Sat 29-May-21 09:47:46

My friend was a care worker putting in over sixty hours a week and often expected to do more. She actually lost three stone in weight and had anxiety because of the job.
You clearly have problems with this job it’s about time you looked for another company to work for.
Maybe change occupation for your own physical and mental health which comes first and foremost.

Shropshirelass Sat 29-May-21 09:46:30

It doesn’t sound like a very good care home. Staff have to be cared for and respected as well as the residents. If you are ill then you can’t do your job properly and need to stay off work. I would look for a position elsewhere, as there is a national shortage of care staff this should not be a problem. I have a friend who is a carer and said that she could only do three days (she cares for her mother). They told her she had to do more hours and nights otherwise she would face a disciplinary hearing! She left, their loss as she is an excellent carer. You have to look after yourself. Good luck.

FannyCornforth Sat 29-May-21 09:37:33

Helli Shangela With everything that is going on in your life, you really do need to take care of yourself. I'm concerned that you are going to make yourself very ill.
You need to go off sick, go to the GP and look after yourself. Is there anyone who you could stay with who would help you? Are you getting support in real life? I've asked you any this on one of your other threads.
You really need to make some changes, but you need to get a bit better first. I do feel for you thanks

EllanVannin Sat 29-May-21 09:35:52

What a thankless job ! My own health and welfare would come first I'm afraid.