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Who pays? And should a young child go to a parent’s funeral?

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Grandma70s Mon 30-Oct-17 19:06:23

I don’t think it’s a good idea to take young children to a parent’s funeral. I was advised not to when my husband died when my children were still at primary school (in fact one of them was still an infant) and I don't regret not taking them. What would it have done to them to see a box containing their father slide through curtains to be burnt? Better at that age not to know. They’ve never expressed any regret.

I avoided funerals myself until I was an adult. I think they are depressing and don’t help at all, but I suppose it depends on your attitudes towards ceremonies of this type. When I was 8 I knew perfectly well that my grandmother was dead without going to her funeral. I’m so glad nobody put me through that at such a young age.

I know it’s fashionable now to take children, but I still don’t think it’s a good idea.

FarNorth Mon 30-Oct-17 19:03:49

The deceased person's estate is responsible for paying for the funeral.

CherryHatrick Mon 30-Oct-17 19:03:48

If he is in a hospice then presumably he knows he is dying, and if he is still competent, one would hope he has made a will and employed a solicitor to execute it and arrange his funeral. If he was a homeowner then he will have an estate, and the cost of the funeral should come from his estate.

silversurf Mon 30-Oct-17 18:51:52

My adored father died when I was ten and I have always resented the fact that I wasn't allowed to attend his funeral. I would ask the child gently what she would like to do.
So sorry for the situation your DD and DGD find themselves in.

suzied Mon 30-Oct-17 18:44:14

Definitely involve the child in the funeral. My 4 granddaughters ( aged 2-8) went to their cousin’s funeral and it was a positive experience as far as it can be. I wouldn’t have liked to exclude them. Maybe she could make a card or choose some flowers to go with the coffin, send a balloon into the air to represent her Dad and saying goodbye.

Bridgeit Mon 30-Oct-17 18:39:53

So sorry to read your predicament Fish&chips, I do know that you cannot be made to pay for a funeral, ( don't sign anything or register the inevitable) the state will eventually take care of this but it takes a bit longer than normal.

lemongrove Mon 30-Oct-17 18:30:02

Hard to know about the child attending the funeral, as you don’t say what age she is exactly, but the cost of the funeral has to be payed by whoever arranges it.
If nobody came forward to do that, the State pays for it.
If your DGD is seven or over, I think it would be good for her to be with her Mother at the funeral, but it’s a personal decision.

Daddima Mon 30-Oct-17 18:13:22

My father’s family kept the deceased person in the front room until the funeral, and the children were all milling about, drawing pictures and picking flowers to go in the coffin. They also attended the funeral, no matter how young they were, and they didn’t seem to have the horror or fear of death. Our children were older when our parents died, so they were happy ( well, you know what I mean!) to go to the funeral.

Iam64 Mon 30-Oct-17 18:04:43

It seems children are more likely to be involved in funerals than when we were young. My parents were I believe, over protective, somehow believing if we didn't go to our loved ones funerals, we wouldn't be as upset. As BlueBelle says, the advice these days is to allow children to take part - at 9 and with the deceased being her father, it seems right to me that she should be supported by her mum at this funeral. If her mum is there, she'll be able to protect her if that's necessary and also comfort her and explain things. It also means they can talk more easily about this loss as time passes.

Willow500 Mon 30-Oct-17 17:59:52

Sad situation and I don't know the answer to the financial side of it but I'm sure someone will be able to answer that. My own boys went to my aunt's funeral when they when the youngest was about 8 - I felt they were old enough to understand and had thought a lot about her. My granddaughters went to all 4 of their grandparents funerals - the youngest would be your granddaughter's age when my dad passed away and they were very close to my parents. I think they cope very well and I believe it isn't something they should be shielded from - death is a part of life after all. Do explain all that will happen though so she understands the process.

BlueBelle Mon 30-Oct-17 17:59:20

My grandchildren lost their much loved Daddy when they were 4 and 6 my daughter took advice from various children’s breavement helplines and all seemed to say it is often in the child’s interest to attend the funeral if possible as often they don’t believe they are really dead if they don’t go .... but at the end of the day, even at their tender ages she asked what they wanted to do explaining it would be upsetting, but they did both want to go They kissed their daddy goodbye, they did get upset but sometimes the tears are better out than held in They walked behind their Daddy and at first the little one was skipping along in the sunshine They did both cry during the ceremony as did many ....they are now teenagers and seem well rounded and have never shown any signs that wished they hadn’t gone
Obviously different people will have different views but I hope this has been helpful from my personal experience

Fishandchips Mon 30-Oct-17 17:43:39

I’ve just learned that my daughter’s ex-partner is in a hospice. He is 52 years old and has cancer (he’s been a chain smoker and cannabis user for many years).

It was a very acrimonious split which happened when my granddaughter was just 16 months old; he treated my daughter very badly, controlling, jealous and eventually became violent and threw them out of his flat which was in his name only. He is much older than my daughter (fairly close to my age, I’m still in my 50s) and he’s always disliked my husband and I because he knew we were uncomfortable with their age difference and lifestyle choices.

Since he ended the relationship (then wanted her back, but she refused) she has struggled financially, never receiving any maintenance for their daughter. Her ex-partner has been estranged from his own family since before my daughter was in a relationship with him.

My granddaughter sees him one day per week as directed by a Court order and handover via a third party. She does love her dad and has been to see him in the hospice.

My daughter has a couple of concerns and I don’t know what to suggest, so perhaps someone could advise?

1. As far as she knows, there is no next-of-kin, apart from their daughter (she is under 10) so what happens about arranging a funeral and funeral costs - will it be my daughter’s responsibility? He is an atheist afaik.

2. My daughter is very upset, obviously thinking of the love they did once share and has gently explained to my granddaughter that he is dying and they both cried. His pet dog died recently so I think she knows a little about death/dying. However, my daughter has never been to a funeral and when the time comes, she thinks that she should take her daughter too.

I am not sure what to think about children at funerals; I certainly was not allowed to go when I was a child, my granddad died when I was nine and I went to school as usual but then back to my gran’s house where all the funeral attendees went for tea and cakes. The first funeral I went to was when I was newly married and my FIL died, it was a cremation and I was shocked when the curtains parted and the coffin moved behind them on a conveyer belt.

Is it generally thought that a young child should go to the funeral of a parent? I imagine that it would be a cremation, perhaps it would be traumatic for her?

I haven’t been to many funerals but I don’t think I’ve seen children at them, but it’s possible that there may have been one or two present.

I live overseas and if my daughter wants me to go over to be with her I will.