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MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 14:21:37

God there are some miseries on here !

Doesn’t matter what the thread is about in they come with their criticisms . Experts at finding something to complain about. Has someone left out a comma or heaven forbid added a space before the comma .
Then there are those who are like counsels for the prosecution demanding to know the evidence for your opinion.

I’m waiting for the dogpiling. Who will be first to tell me that if I don’t like it I know what I can do. Yes . I do know .

I wondered at first if we all get like this as we get old . Is it a progression from menopause / andropause to gerontopause ? ( I made that last one up ).

But no it doesn’t always follow . There are many kind people on here. And a few very funny people . Lots of helpful people . And reflective people who lighten up my days. I see some names and really look forward to their posts or threads.

I have learned a lot from Gn and had many a good book recommendation which is where I started on here. So I guess I’m going to keep going.

Well ! I feel better after that. What do you think ?

MawB Thu 04-Jun-20 16:58:08

Right.
Now I am going to be a “miserable person”
I hate it when we get general threads about some people bring picky/intolerant/miserable/bullying or whatever without any reference to what OP is disgruntled about.
I was always brought up to say it right out to a person’s face if they had upset me , not mither away under my breath which leaves everybody thinking “Was it me?” “What did I /he/she say?”

So spit it out please MissTree as things stand you are maligning all the kind, cheerful, helpful members of GN by lumping everybody together.

MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 16:58:35

It’s not about different opinions. They are to be welcomed. Just say it nicely. Don’t attack the poster. If I don’t understand, explain to me. I want to learn.

MawB Thu 04-Jun-20 16:59:09

What is wrong with Eloethan’s request for what you term “Give me the evidence” ? confused

Wibby Thu 04-Jun-20 17:01:10

Bit harsh MissTree, I think your out of order, you have no idea what these posters ( miseries your word) are going through in their everyday life. This is a forum for discussion and posters are entitled to post their opinion, if you dont like it dont read it! No need to criticise!

MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 17:02:59

Please reread the OP. You will see I do not malign everybody. I was brought up not to attack personally but to leave an escape route. When we see we have made mistakes we can correct them without losing face. So someone might say,” maybe I got that wrong” .

Lucca Thu 04-Jun-20 17:05:33

Isn’t this
the second of these ? There was one about not complaining about what you can’t change, um listening to the birds and thinking positive thoughts ? So I’ll repeat what I said on there, it is the variety of posts, threads, opinions, Personalities that makes GN fun.

MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 17:09:20

Wibby,
So people who have problems ( don’t we all ) are entitled to express their opinions ?
So can I also express mine ?

dontmindstayinghome Thu 04-Jun-20 17:09:52

I agree MissTree, although I wouldn't necessarily call them "miseries" - I define them as "Negative Nellies" or "Ranters".

I find more and more often that I go through the "trending" list and avoid reading anything. Same old ranters spouting the same old garbage - in my opinion anyway!

I think a lot of older people become very self-focussed too. They seem to lose the ability to view an issue from someone else's perspective and only see how it impacts them.

Thankfully there are some very good positive, helpful and entertaining posters too, you just have to wade through the mud to find them. grin

MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 17:13:05

It’s no big deal. I was having a grumpy afternoon. I looked for something to cheer me up and couldn’t find anything. Perhaps I should have listened to my dear old mum who said! “ if you’ve nothing nice to say...”

MawB Thu 04-Jun-20 17:29:43

Well if I was having a “down” afternoon, having a grump about everybody else is not how I would hope to cheer myself up!

Judy54 Thu 04-Jun-20 17:30:47

So the truth is out MissTree you were having a grumpy afternoon and could not find anything cheery on here. Definitely not looking at the right threads. Hope you have a better day tomorrow smile

Rosalyn69 Thu 04-Jun-20 17:39:44

Dare I say - self opinionated know it alls....
But mostly now I shrug and move on.
A lot of folk are really nice but it’s the same ones who like to lecture.
It takes all kinds. Message boards/forums are pretty much all the same.

GGumteenth Thu 04-Jun-20 17:41:52

Isn't this very thread the OP doing what the OP is complaining about?

Eloethan Thu 04-Jun-20 17:52:31

Rosalyn69 Again, this thread has brought out those who are not honest or brave enough to tell an individual directly that they feel he or she is being rude or pompous. Deal with it honestly with the people who annoy you instead of making veiled comments.

Incidentally, you have expressed several opinions yourself as to the character of unnamed posters, so presumably you too are "self-opinionated".

EllanVannin Thu 04-Jun-20 17:57:39

MissTree---is that lava or pan ?

Pantglas2 Thu 04-Jun-20 18:02:38

Well I know what you mean MissTree! I’m one of those who’s interested in other people’s opinions and passion, I have a few myself!

However the deliberate rudeness, the putdowns, the total rubbishing of somebody who disagrees on something ... I wasn’t reared that way and I fail to see how anyone expects to win the argument by doing it! I’ll be contrary on that one til the cows come home purely and simply because of the arrogance!

I do like to put my case and I’m happy to learn from more able people and I’m also big enough to apologise if I get it wrong - something sadly lacking with so many who think that they can post and run and it’s forgotten. Nope, you’ve just let yourself and your big brain down, big style!

And to leave on a kind word (or two) - Good post.

Puzzler61 Thu 04-Jun-20 18:21:08

If you’ve (general term not anyone specifically) been brought up to be polite, and you’ve taught your children to be polite, I don’t believe you suddenly start to become rude as part of the ageing process.
Human traits tend to become more pronounced as we age so probably the ability to be rude was always there in some people.

varian Thu 04-Jun-20 18:26:33

Many of us, especially those living in the country, with lovely gardens, have found it easy to count our blessings in the last months, but that should not mean that we are unconcerned for our fellow citizens, working in dangerous situations on the front line, or having to stay at home when home is not a safe place to stay.

Nor should our good fortunes and comfortable circumstances, make us unaware of how badly let down our whole country has been by our appalling government.

MissTree Thu 04-Jun-20 18:27:43

Puzzler
You may be right. What do I know ? Your comment reminded me of my friend’s mum who was very prudish and correct but who used to sing rude songs when she got very old.
GG
You’re absolutely right. Didn’t see it that way . ?
Judy
I’ll do better tomorrow .

MissAdventure Thu 04-Jun-20 18:51:56

Yes, well, make sure you do, young lady! grin

Barmeyoldbat Thu 04-Jun-20 19:18:43

Pantglas you said it for me so nothing to add.

GGumteenth Thu 04-Jun-20 19:45:21

Pantglas2 I have just come to the conclusion that some people do not realise their own deliberate rudeness, the putdowns, the total rubbishing of somebody who disagrees on something. They are often the ones who complain about it in others.

One thing I am aware of is that I do not share things about myself on here as I really don't trust some of the posters. I don't feel like that on the groups I am in on Facebook. I wonder what is different in some of the GNetters that has made me feel like that on here. If we don't share then we don't know people but then ... if we don't trust some of them would we want to?

MawB Thu 04-Jun-20 19:46:15

Well that was a fun thread hmmhmm
What’s next?

Pantglas2 Thu 04-Jun-20 20:09:35

Come on MawB you’re one of the good guys! Opinionated but fair and open to read a well put argument as should we all be. At the end we can disagree politely and move on without belittling. ?

MawB Thu 04-Jun-20 21:34:55

I was just waiting for some sort of discussion Pantglas !
It just sort of fizzled out - a bit of a grumble and a moan.

This might be more successful at cheering OP up.