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Arguing both sides?

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Bluebellwould Tue 07-Dec-21 17:30:38

Can you/do you argue from both sides of a discussion? I often state one point of view on here when starting a discussion whilst simultaneously thinking something else. I think this comes from an English teacher who would make us argue on one side and then make us switch sides and argue for that viewpoint. She made absolutely certain that we did it properly, no waffling and no wobbling. I don’t know whether this made us dilettantes or broad minded. Is it easier to have singular strong views that you argue no matter what or does it depend on the topic? Can your mind be changed?

Silvertwigs Wed 08-Dec-21 17:21:28

@ Bluebellwould of course it can! This is the basis of HE, doing a degree for example teaches you how to argue with evidence to back it up…

How many time do we start with ‘according to’!! ?

Saetana Wed 08-Dec-21 22:13:54

I'm a big fan of playing "devil's advocate" - I often do it with my husband, even when I actually believe the same as him. When I did English Language for O Level we had to write, amongst other things, what were called "argumentative essays". We were given a subject, for example fox hunting, then had to state the case for both sides and finally giving our own opinion (with reasons why) at the end of the essay.

Urmstongran Wed 08-Dec-21 23:09:51

I often play Devils Advocate on GN threads.

MissAdventure Wed 08-Dec-21 23:12:03

I used to do that with my ex.
It never took long for the peace loving hippy (him) to get raging mad and start saying very peaceful things. grin

MissAdventure Wed 08-Dec-21 23:12:45

Unpeaceful.

Chestnut Wed 08-Dec-21 23:26:13

Like Urm I like to throw the other viewpoint into the discussion to get a response, especially when the posts are too one sided.
What worries me is how Universities seem to be banning anything that challenges the students' views in case it upsets them. That is a dreadful way to go. They need to hear the other side not stay hidden in their 'safe spaces'.

ExaltedWombat Thu 09-Dec-21 11:27:23

Remember - opinions first, arguments second!

nanna8 Thu 09-Dec-21 12:24:28

Me too Urm. Then I think, sheesh, what sort of a person will they think I am ? Some bitter ole bid but then it is fun, sometimes, too. Gets us talking at least. When I was at school in London they used to teach us to take opposing sides in debates and never believe anything without questions.

Doodledog Thu 09-Dec-21 14:26:16

Like most people, we were taught to make a case for both sides of a controversy, but I don't think I ever deliberately argue for something I don't believe in 'in real life' - life's too short!

I do think that it's important to really consider where the other 'side' is coming from, though. For one thing, they may be right, and for another, you have to be able to predict their opposition to your point of view if you are going to be able to argue against it. I think that's the stage at which I am most likely to change my mind - if I am wondering what 'they' are going to say, think of something, then can't find a way to counter it, then I really reconsider my own point of view, and sometimes change it altogether. Other times, though, I become further entrenched, as I have more reasons for feeling as I do.

I think that's different from simply 'seeing both sides' but rejecting the other one, and it's very different from sitting on the fence, but maybe I'm saying the same thing in a different way.

Marmite32 Thu 09-Dec-21 17:29:00

Like JackieB I find it hard to firmly make a decisiion. Without self doubting afterwards.
I'm a Pisces, and their sign is 2 fishes swimming in opposite directions. And I hate hostile quarrels so give in easily to keep the peace.