Callistemon21
Glorianny
Mollygo
Glorianny
Is your choir member reference like the tall, heavily built, muscular, deep voiced friends
that people often bring into posts when trying to claim that “you can’t tell a woman from a man”.
Your
I would just think "Another woman, looks a bit different but she's here, she's a woman."
means you are more alert to the presence of what someone once referred to as the wrong sort of woman than I am. Do you look out for them?
When I go to choir, I put chairs out and chat to people, rather than scanning the doorway for questionable ‘women’.
My reaction would be different depending on
1. Where this person appeared. Choir is one thing, safe space is another.
2. Whether they declared they were a ‘woman’. Why would anyone do that unless they aren’t.”
It's a woman's choir Mollygo maybe you haven't come across such things but they do exist.
I often look at people it's a bit of a hobby. I'm a people watcher and not ashamed of it. I give them back stories. It's fun.
The problems might arise at the audition.
A bass would not fit in with a women's choir musically, whereas a tenor or baritone might.
How to suggest kindly that a mixed choir might be more appropriate for their timbre?
There are a lot of choirs here but I couldn't join one as I wouldn't pass an audition for any.
Why are we discussing choirs? Is this a metaphor?
Perhaps I should rtt.
There are women's choirs with women singing the deeper parts. My voice is quite deep, I can sing baritone quite easily and have sung the bass part. A lot of choirs don't audition and just accept all voices.
It was just an enquiry as to how the definition of woman would be applied in practice. I don't think it would be. I don't think it can be.
But all the protestations about "I can tell" amuse me. Maybe some people can, but what would you do about it? And what if you were wrong and harmed another woman with your judgement would that be OK?
For the record Doodledog I support the individual's right to live life as they choose providing in doing so they harm no one else. And that includes men, women and non-binary people.