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earnshaw Sun 20-Dec-20 10:08:08

after watching the crowds fleeing London due to the fear of tier 4 , i am appalled and sickened, the public in general , and i mean in general not all, have made me feel ashamed and disgusted , this is why the virus is spreading, those blaming Boris, look to yourselves and , at least, take some of the blame, definitely no social distancing as they all swarm onto trains etc for ONE day, come on ,stop being so selfish

Casdon Mon 21-Dec-20 17:07:02

I agree Callistemon, it’s just as likely to have spread by North Wales based lorry drivers traveling through Kent, there’s not massive traffic between North and South Wales as it’s so tortuous.

AGAA4 Mon 21-Dec-20 17:20:18

As this virus is so very infectious it doesn't take many people to spread it. My son used to work in S. Wales and travel back to N.Wales every weekend and he won't be the only one. Also colleagues used to travel regularly to S. Wales from the North so it is not impossible for the virus to be brought back here.

Casdon Mon 21-Dec-20 17:47:34

No you’re right, it’s in the whole of the U.K., and people travel UK-wide for work and for leisure, so it could be lots of different routes of transfer, I guess we’ll never know - the point though was that we don’t know that it’s travel between South and North Wales that’s caused it either. I’m in mid Wales, so no axe to grind.

Ellianne Mon 21-Dec-20 17:51:02

There must be some sort of link to the fact that Wales came out of lockdown ahead of the rest of the country when the new variant was taking hold. We are all heading the same way in a week or two.
The Kent connection sort of points to lorry drivers travelling from there?

eazybee Mon 21-Dec-20 17:53:12

People in tier 4 may well be workers so presumably they have somewhere to stay. They have been told NOT to travel because they are at high risk of spreading the virus.

Nothing to do with ' we welcome our children home'.

There are probably some people in Devon and Cornwall who won't welcome the virus.

Casdon Mon 21-Dec-20 17:55:44

That definitely figures Ellianne, Wales should have extended the lockdown when England went into the four week one then it wouldn’t have taken off so quickly and severely.

Callistemon Mon 21-Dec-20 17:58:22

Casdon DH used to do that but weekly, it is tortuous.

Ellianne Mon 21-Dec-20 17:59:14

Another reason Casdon why Wales, Scotland and England should work in unison on this issue.

Casdon Mon 21-Dec-20 18:00:04

Totally agree!

Ellianne Mon 21-Dec-20 18:09:50

eazybee maybe I explained wrong, and I can only speak as a Devon resident and a mother. Our son works for the MoD, he has to travel between Plymouth and London for work. He had to catch the train out of tier 4 on Saturday. He had to travel, along with many others in a similar situation. We welcome our children HOME. Just like the lorry drivers going home who are stranded, how long do people want them to wait?

LauraNorder Mon 21-Dec-20 18:32:09

Holyhead full of lorries and cars now unable to cross from Holyhead to Dublin because Eire has closed its borders. No accommodation available so people sleeping in their cars this very cold night. Those of us with spare bedrooms frightened to help because if covid. What would the Good Samaritan have done in this situation?

LauraNorder Mon 21-Dec-20 18:33:33

Sorry wrong thread meant to be on the Dover closed thread.