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Need advice about commercially produced veggie meat.

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vampirequeen Sat 06-Feb-21 14:23:27

We're trying to cut down on the amount of meat we eat but we miss the taste/texture of meat so we've been buying commercially produced veggie pretend meat. Some has been really nice i.e. the texture and taste made us feel like it was meat and some have been awful. We're not going veggie for the animals but for the environment and ourselves. Let me be up front....real bacon is never going off the menu.

But then we got to thinking are we doing the right thing or have we been swept up onto a gimmicky/more expensive bandwagon.

I have two questions that I can't seem to find out the answer to and I know the GN hive mind will be sure to be able to help.

Is it healthier to eat commercially produced veggie pretend meat rather than real meat?

Does eating commercially produced veggie pretend meat help the environment or does the act of it being made commercially leave a big carbon footprint?

M0nica Fri 12-Feb-21 16:16:18

Baggs, by fertilisers I was meaning the chemical kind.

vampirequeen Fri 12-Feb-21 16:48:59

I understand the upside of Pasture for Life but doesn't it take more land for grazing or growing winter feed?

M0nica Fri 12-Feb-21 22:31:01

According to the FAO Twenty-six percent of the Planet's ice-free land is used for livestock grazing and 33 percent of croplands are used for livestock feed production.

As PFL cattle are not consuming any of the 33% of the worlds land going to cattle feed, that suggests to me that, even though stocking rates are lower, when considering the pasture stocking rates of industrially produced cattle, you then need to take into account the 33% of the land growing fodder crops, and that may make stocking rates lower than with PFL cattle

Emissions from cattle farming are not just methane. For industrial raised cattle there are also a very high rate of CO2 emissions, from the manufacture and use of the inorganic fertilisers, made synthetically through an energy-intensive process using natural gas and applied to both fodder crops and pasture. Then there are the emissions from the transport to take the feed to the farmer, often involving long sea journeys. Much of the forest land destroyed in South America is cleared to grow soya for cattle food.

The manure produced by intensive cattle farming is also a problem. It has to be stored until used and it is a potent producer of methane. With PFL farming the cattle are returning their dung back to the ground, where it is quickly colonised by bacteria and insects, broken down and returned to the soil as a natural fertiliser.