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Is obesity a class thing?

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RosieLeah Fri 14-Jul-17 06:45:28

We are told a lot about the dangers of obesity, and quite right too. (We are talking about the seriously overweight, not mere plumpness). I have noticed though, that it seems to be those lower down the social scale that have this problem. It is obviously not a question of money, as the people are clearly able to afford to buy plenty of food. It seems that it is all a question of pride in oneself. People who are obese choose to be so. Our weight is one of the few things we can control. I'm trying to be diplomatic here and not cause offence, but I think you can see what I'm implying. I know that depression can cause some people to over-eat, then being overweight causes more depression and you get into a cycle. I'm just wondering whether I'm correct in thinking that those who are obese and are careless about their appearance tend to be from the lower classes in our society.

Anya Fri 14-Jul-17 06:59:51

Pulls up a chair, breaks out the popcorn, sits back and waits for the fun to start

RosieLeah Fri 14-Jul-17 07:18:31

Lol...yes, I'm wondering whether I've dropped myself into hot water here! It is a valid question though.

Marydoll Fri 14-Jul-17 07:18:58

Is this for real? Lower classes of society ? What exactly do you mean by this? Are you being clever and deliberately being offensive to provoke a discussion?

mcem Fri 14-Jul-17 07:23:59

And perhaps even heading for another deletion?
Rosie did you take any time to familiarise yourself with GN before jumping in with both feet?

annsixty Fri 14-Jul-17 07:36:49

I am not the slimmest of people, quite the opposite and must now re-evaluate my place in society and I definitely instantly feel inferior. The point is, I don't know how, as I am comfortable with my self and my place in the great scheme of things.
Tips are welcome as to how I do this as I don't know anyone in the lower class of society, and need to know how I seek them out to become one of them.

Rigby46 Fri 14-Jul-17 07:52:13

Of course, I can't suggest for one minute what anyone else should do but I for one am not going to feed the beast.

mcem Fri 14-Jul-17 07:52:17

Ann I know you as a kind and respected member of GN but now that you've admitted to those extra pounds we all have to reevaluate I'm afraid.
I don't think the lower classes join GN which why it's OK for us to discuss them in these terms.
I'm glad you've been brave enough to admit your shortcomings and suggest you pay careful attention to your betters.
Maybe one day you'll be regarded as worthy - like the OP.

mcem Fri 14-Jul-17 07:55:02

You're right rigby - it has to be either windup or wicked so I'll follow your lead!

kittylester Fri 14-Jul-17 08:00:29

Budge up and pass the popcorn Anya.

Ann and me! grin

ninathenana Fri 14-Jul-17 08:07:56

Got any fizzy pop to go with that Anya
grin

RosieLeah Fri 14-Jul-17 08:11:18

Perhaps it's time for me to add that I myself am from the lower classes and live in a deprived area. I'm surrounded by people who are heavy smokers, heavy drinkers and eat a lot of take-aways. A large number of them are obese. I live near a 'posh' park where I meet middle class people walking their dogs and playing golf. None of them are obese (though exercise might be a factor). I'm just wondering if there is a connection?

MawBroon Fri 14-Jul-17 08:20:17

Was it the Duchess of Windsor who commented that you cannot be too rich or too thin?
Sadly unlikely to be either.

(Pass the posh popcorn Anya)

travelsafar Fri 14-Jul-17 08:29:41

ROSIELEAH you state you live in a deprived area and see many who are obese.It is maybe to do with the lack of money. If you have money you can pay a gym membership or hire a personnel trainer.You can afford to buy the correct sort of food to control weight. With out money you have to have the incentive to find a form of exercise which is free or costs very little, you have to be motivated to purchase the right kinds of food in your price bracket and prepare from scratch which may be costly in terms of using gas or electricity to cook the food. Without the finances it is easier to go and buy cheap food which requires very little preparation and cooking and fills you up but sadly is usually the worst you could eat for weight control and health. I feel sorry for children in these circumstances they really dont stand a chance as they have no control over what they have to eat.

Anniebach Fri 14-Jul-17 08:31:42

School ended recently for those waiting their A level results

Maggiemaybe Fri 14-Jul-17 08:39:25

Budge up, Anya, and pass the Pringles.

mcem Fri 14-Jul-17 08:43:16

That dawned on me "Annie*.I really didn't want to come back but you've tempted me! I was wondering if these common people also frequent Shoezone.

ninny Fri 14-Jul-17 08:44:22

Rosie Leah I agree with you. We are getting more like America where being obese is the norm. The UK is the Fat Man/Woman of Europe. I'm working class but make an effort to exercise and eat healthy but all around me I see mainly obese women and obese young girls, but the boys and young men seen slim. Although you don't see so many smoking now. They seem to have no pride in their appearance and instead of wearing clothes to compliment them seem to wear the tightest most revealing ones which show off all their rolls of fat.

Teetime Fri 14-Jul-17 08:46:08

I know my place. Born into a working class family, worked all my life as a nurse and we all know that's not as good as being a doctor and here I am overweight. Only got myself and my social inferiority to blame I suppose. Pass the pork pies!!

Anniebach Fri 14-Jul-17 08:57:06

Being one of the lower class - I assume this is the working class fir the O/P

I am battling with depression.

Couldn't care less about clothes, make up, haven't been to hair dresser for years.

How come I am 5'7" and a size 8

NanaandGrampy Fri 14-Jul-17 08:59:32

People who are obese choose to be so

And that's where you lose me !

Quite frankly Rosie load of bollocks !

And that's my contribution from lower down the social classes !

mumofmadboys Fri 14-Jul-17 09:14:15

Obesity is multifactorial- diet, exercise, genetics, upbringing, self esteem, education, depression, medication,alcohol,peers and finances all contribute. If you are unemployed, single and depressed eating may be one of your only pleasures. Life is difficult for so many people.

LadyGracie Fri 14-Jul-17 09:19:18

I live not too far from the estate that has been identified as the most deprived in Wales, and to some small extent I do agree with what Rosie says? But I think obesity affects all classes of society, we are what we eat!

TerriBull Fri 14-Jul-17 09:24:18

I'm not sure obesity was prevalent in any of the social classes before certain fast food outlets arrived from across the pond. Anyone who has visited America will know how it has affected the obesity levels there and perhaps it's worth mentioning that it is often cheaper there to buy a meal from certain food outlets than it is getting the ingredients together to cook a meal at home. The supersizing is another factor. Into that toxic mix add the fact that we move around a lot less than we did once before screens took over. I expect most of us remember how little tv there was for children when we were growing up. I know that many of us had more freedom to roam around and get ourselves dirty, hence my perception is that coupled with hardly any tv, and the fact that childhood leisure time wasn't monitered in the way it is today we were possibly healthier. My sibling and I spent a lot of our time out of the house when we weren't at school if I remember rightly. I guess we all ate less and moved more. I also imagine adults didn't imbibe the amount of alchol that as a nation we do today. In my house wine was something that we just had at Christmas time.

Some of the upper class Victorians and Edwardians were fat, if anyone has seen a sample of menus from the type of fayre that Queen Victoria and her offspring consumed, it's a wonder she lived to the ripe old age she did.

rosesarered Fri 14-Jul-17 09:30:58

There is an interesting question in there from the OP though, as a long time ago poorer people were thinnner ( I was one of them) and never got enough to eat as a child really, always felt some hunger.
I do think it could be the type of food that people eat now, that is readily available as snacks that is causing the problem of obesity, and the amount of sugar consumed in drinks and chocolate.
Poorer people are always going to be at a disadvantage with food, as in the past it cost more ( the rise of supermarkets and basics ranges means that it's cheaper now) but at the same time parents are usually both working so have less time to make a meal that is both nutritious and healthy.
I don't believe anybody chooses to be obese, of any class, but that it just happens slowly.
I live in what could be called a very nice area, and the majority of teenagers are slim ( often very slim) that I see, but adults are a mixed bag, all kinds of sizes.