Hand sanitiser

Same here travelsafar, I'm walking round with Dettol surface wipes and using them to clean hands while out shopping, until I can wash with soap and water.
I've been told that baby wipes would be enough, can anyone advise on this?

I have some wipes for kitchen surfaces which claim to ';kill' all sorts. I will put some in my bag, then when out wipe hands with one of those untill i can get to soap and water.

,My DD said that visitors are stealing the large handgels from the hospitals!! no surprise there!!

Report me if you wish.
Surgical Spirit is not only dangerous in the ways you are stated. I am not scaremongering. It is about proportionate use. Yes it is recommended as a topical antiseptic but 91% or 99.9% proof at a proportion of 60% of a solution? Never come across that in a hand sanitizer for healthcare workers.
I have seen with my own eyes what I have seen. I have seen skin corrosion due to surgical spirit in concentration, have you?. I'm not the one scaremongering!

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Cherry for reasons known only to yourself, you have tried to make people think that the use of isopropyl alcohol (surgical spirit) is dangerous.
These are your words:

Surgical Spirit should not be used in such high concentration as you advocating in your recipe! The use of Surgical Spirit in this way, is irresponsible and dangerous

Would you, for example, wash your hands with paint stripper several times a day? If so you are a braver person than I will ever be or would ever wish to be

I just wanted to alert people to the hazards of use of surgical spirit.

GNHQ, like me have concerns about misinformation and irresponsible advice

I have no idea why you are scaremongering in this way. Of course surgical spirit is dangerous if it is ingested, inhaled, or gets in the eyes.

But it is recommended for use as a topical antiseptic and if you read the link from the WHO that I posted upthread, you will see that the WHO approves its use as a hand sanitiser for healthcare workers.

janeansworth I am not putting my faith in any pseudo science ( to be honest I did only glance through the initial page of the article and saw it explained that Surgical Spirit is corrosive). Surgical Spirit in concentrated forms is corrosive. Why are you getting so het up with me? By the way, have you actually read my posts properly? Where have I advised against using aloe vera? I have not. I have been given to understand that you are/ were a dentist, not a chemist, is that correct! Have you seen in evidence the corrosive damage concentrated forms of Surgical Spirit can do! I have. I am not exercised by anything other than concern for other people. I will not be cowed by concerted efforts to prevent me from getting a safety message across. I am putting faith in my father's and brother's expertise, some of which was passed on to me. Both were chemical engineers. I am also putting faith in the knowledge my mother passed on from her time working in a chemical laboratory and I am putting faith in those who educated me about the safe use of chemicals for medical purposes. If you think that I am wrong to do this or have written anything inaccurate and/or irresponsible report my posts.

Yes, Fennel , I too used my left over Hibiscrub this morning .

I have some hibiscrub here which the district nurse used on her hands when she was dealing with my OH's pressure sore. Might that be suitable? Anyone know the answer to this? I am wondering if it is only effective against bacteria.

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.apartmenttherapy.com/rubbing-alcohol-uses-safety-mistakes-262542%3famp=1

www.apartmenttherapy.com/diy-hand-sanitizer-safety-36723342

Cherry I think the top link is the one you’re referring to.
The second one is a link from within the article.

I really don’t know why you’re so exercised about people making their own hand sanitiser or why you place so much faith on pseudo-scientific websites like apartment therapy.com.
I prefer to be guided by organisations like the WHO.
In fact, neither of the above articles advise against using isopropyl alcohol or aloe vera gel. The only warning is that it may cause some minor skin irritation. If that happens, it’s easy enough to deal with.

You only need a few drops each time you apply it. I have had no skin irritation so far.

paddyanne, what did you tell them you are using it for? Do you intend to mix it with anything else? If so, what?
Whatever you do, it is not a good idea to mix it with Isopropyl alcohol.
I can't do links but this is a good place to start for anyone considering using Isopropyl Alcohol as it provides information re. It's use of and the dangers:
Rubbing Alcohol and Safety Mistakes, apartment therapy.com.

I've bought hydrogen peroxide from the chemist,you just have to sign their book and say what you want it for .

Fennel, Octenisa is an anti-allergenic, anti-bacterial, anti- microbial full hair & body wash. It does not contain Isopropyl alcohol but it should be more than suitable. It is kind to the skin and therefore less harsh than a hand sanitizer.

I don’t know Fennel sorry. Maybe you could ask at your local pharmacy?

A hard question this time of the evening!
It's called octenisan.ingreds:
Aqua, Cocamidopropylamine Oxide PEG7 etc

What does the content list say, Fennel?

What is it?
I have some product which I was given to use in the shower before an operation. Would that do?

B and M store had 150ml bottles of Cuticura hand sanitizer at the tills this afternoon. They actually had a sign at the entrance saying No Hand Sanitizer, and there was none on the shelves, so obviously they are keeping them at the check out for genuine customers. The check out operator said there was no rationing, but I only bought two, no need to panic buy.

He refuses to take any in with him as it’s ‘not cool’

Hand soap appears to in be short supply in the school toilets and he doesn’t always have time to trawl the school looking for some

Would these work as hand wipes? For my son at school www.amazon.co.uk/Alcohol-Isopropyl-Antibacterial-Medical-Antiseptic/dp/B07PYPDCC4/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?hvlocphy=1007366&hvnetw=g&keywords=isopropyl+alcohol&hvadid=259098429308&qid=1583931771&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_f-Owr2S6AIVRMjeCh2-TAIREAAYASAAEgJGAPD_BwE&hydadcr=21375_1762433&hvdev=m&hvqmt=e&tag=gransnetforum-21&hvtargid=kwd-295573179256&adgrpid=52030223006&hvrand=8212415392230806106&sr=8-6

I'm leaving it there because a) I have to leave the house and will not be able to post again until much later this evening, b) because I don't seem to be getting the safety message across and c) GNHQ, like me have concerns about misinformation and irresponsible advice.

Handscrubs only contain a teaspoon full of Surgical Spirit.

This shows the varying degrees of contamination.

Quote from the above link:
Q: Are health care staff adversely affected in any way by the alcohol when cleaning their hands?

A: There is no evidence to suggest this. Published studies to date have shown that after using the handrubs, alcohol levels found in the blood are insignificant (ethanol) or not detectable (iso-propyl).

Here is the WHO on the risks of isopropyl alcohol in hand sanitiser.
www.who.int/gpsc/tools/faqs/abhr2/en/