Covid protection

Face visors should not be worn as an alternative to masks covering mount and nose, but additional to that.

The best protection is washing hands in soap and water, after returning home from being out, before touching or preparing food ( and afterwards), obviously, after going to the Loo, upon entering anyone else's home and before leaving that.

Normal soap kills this virus.

One story from USA about 'catching' this from shopping left on doorstep, does not sounds very convincing evidence to me. This virus is totally running out of control in USA due to non-action by President.

I live in the South West and BBC News West, our local News, has been having a lovely doctor on every week to answer questions from the public.

He advises wiping down everything that comes into the house with soapy water, or leaving it in quarantine.

At first it seemed a pain, but when my Sainsbury's delivery comes, I can now do it really quickly - put on gloves, divide the shopping, clean what can be cleaned, place the packets etc to be quarantined on a corner of the worktop including the carrierbags, wash the floor where the full bags stood, wash the gloves, then wash my hands. Done!

Likewise with Amazon parcels and anything that comes into the house from outside.

Maybe it is over the top but I am high risk. Many Covid survivors are being left with M.E. and multiple other problems. I have had M.E. for 30 years, was bedridden for the first 2 years, and have never been able to work or live a normal life since. I also have asthma and other illnesses.

I don't want to catch it.

I have read - and witnessed locally, that people wearing face masks seem to touch their faces to adjust the mask - that concerns me as when I go out for a walk , I don't touch anything at all, and certainly n ot my face. If I have to go into a shop, the distancing rules apply and when I get home I wash my hands and disinfect bag, credit card etc. Unless travelling in closer proximity - like a bus - I can't see how a mask can help in an outdoor situation when people are distanced. There is so much conflicting advice, and as ever that is the problem. The eyes are still exposed, and as the entry points are eyes, nose and mouth...oh, clarity, please, somebody!

I was told that if your travelling in your car to different shops you should keep your mask (face coverings) on,taking it on & off can transfer any germs on to your hands & maybe your mouth. Once finished with, the mask should be removed by the elastic & placed in a plastic bag, taken home & given a very hot wash.. that's probably why you've seen people driving with them on.
Personally I think masks (face coverings) should have been mandatory from the start of all of this, then everyone would know what they were doing and also probably saved lives!!!!

If everybody, including shop staff, wore masks surely that would go some way to stopping the virus spreading. However, the Chinese have been wearing them for years, and look what happened there....

Sparklefizz,I know who you are referring too,he has been being the same thing for the south west local news(spotlight).
As I watch both at the same time,and his garden looks wonderful.
Best thing I heard him say was treat EVERYTHING as contaminated.It the early days of the pandemic I put all the tin cans stuff in the consevatory for at least 36 hours.
Perishables went straight in the fridge for three days before consumption.
What we have also done, is have a gallon of water in the car in an empty milk plastic container,along with the soap just in case.
KEEP SAFE ONE AND ALL.

I always wear my mask in the supermarket but find that very few people are wearing them. The best thing about wearing one is that it reminds people to keep their distance from you. I see people ambling towards me in the store, then spot the mask and veer away. You can almost see them thinking 'Oh yes I need to keep my distance'. Wear it to let people know they have to stay a distance from you. If other people don't wear them that's up to them but we can only look after ourselves.

I've found that in the supermarket some mask wearing folk seem to think they are totally immune to everything they push in front of me reach across to the shelves in front of me walk the wrong way down the aisles what's wrong with them

I always wear a mask leaving the house and its fun as I have a few different ones. My DH bought me a few mad ones, skeletons, dragons, etc. and a friend makes more subdued ones like plain and spotted and unicorns, etc. People ask about them and I'm happy to shout out wear I bought them from. Masks should be wore and then if not disposable washed after every use. Make it fun and maybe they may wear them.

[LuckyFour] Same as you. The mask is a little barrier between us and the air - and it definitely helps people to remember social distancing.

A mask is another form of protection if worn properly and changed every few hours, not used all day.
I put one on in the car before going to the supermarket so that I can see that it is put on correctly and adjusted, if necessary, at home. That's why you may see people driving with them on.
The following is quite an interesting article on airborne particles.

www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/well/live/Coronavirus-aerosols-linsey-marr.html

New information out today states wearing of masks significantly helps reduce the risk of infection!
So keep wearing your masks.......please

We are told to wash our hands more often..good idea, but when the virus attacks through our nose and mouth I think we should wash hands AND FACE

There comes a point when an improperly used mask becomes a health hazard.

They need frequent changing and washing , the more the better. Hands should be washed after handling the mask so the mask should be well fitted so it is reasonably comfortable.

Managers should monitor employees so they don't misuse their masks by touching it or leaving their noses outside it. And managers should make sure employees wash hands before handling food or after the toilet or trip to the rubbish bin.

katy, I hope you learn to say loudly "Get away from me!" pushing in front is bad manners at any time.

Luckyfour, that is good psychology!

Milest0ne,
I was using antiseptic soap for a while for my face area,
be careful to keep away from your eyes,
it stings like bloody hell.

I find it very painful to wear a mask. I have trigeminal neuralgia (nicknamed the suicide disease) and quite often cannot bear anything to touch an area on the left side of my face as it triggers an attack. I feel condemned if I don't wear a mask.

Sparklefizz I too find I can deal with Tesco deliveries quicker. I get my biggest colander for draining the eggs after washing them in soapy water and rinsing. Firm vegetables similarly.
Cakes and bread decanted into freezer bags or tupperware.Pizzas shed their cardboard and go to fridge in their clingfilm.

Fish fingers and cod steaks get double decanted into a large plastic jug then poured into a freezer bag.

Cheese and yoghourt packets are washed and dried or left to air dry.

Tins , bottles, and cleaning materials remain on the hall floor to quarantine for three days.

Patsytaylor, I hope something can be done for the pain. Cannot they crush the nerve?

In think visors may become more popular as they become available. The masks constantly ride up towards my eyes, even with the little bendy strip adjusted to fit, maybe I bought a bad pack, they were very cheap.

I am on a waiting list for MVD op. Brain surgery to untangle blood vessel from nerve.

I think face masks are good in enclosed spaces, like public transport, where there are lots of people. But if outside its important to get fresh air and the sun on your face, people who keep healthy get their vitamin D are less likely to get virus. I think if you can avoid very bust places. Also masks harbour germs so really important to wash cloth ones regularly.

Interesting that in the Caribbean from the very beginning of the pandemic everyone was told not to wear outdoor shoes indoors and everyone had to wear masks in public places. Supermarkets had sinks with soap and running water outside.

The country I used to live in has coped wonderfully well with the virus, possibly because of these rules.

Once a mask is damp apparently it offers no protection. It does not take long to to get damp.