Sleep, the innocent sleep, sleep that knits up the ravel'd sleeve of care

I have the same problem and it has got worse during lockdown. I have now learnt to accept this and feel that this is just how my body clock is. I too am retired and so I never make appointments in the morning if I can help it and I like to get up leisurely and just do everything I need to do later in the day. Does it matter if you get up at 10am? My sister, of a similar age, has always been an early riser and by midday she is bored out of her mind. I prefer my lifestyle.

Have your alarm go off at say 9 am and get up no matter what or how you feel. Go to bed at your normal time. Keep the same wake up time for 3 days and then gradually make it earlier only slightly though say 15 mins then 30 mins until you reach a time you feel is "normal" for you. It won't happen quickly, you have to give your body and mind time to adjust. Hope it works out for you.

Bad sleeper here too. Dog gets 2 long walks a day, I don't drink anything but water past 3pm, go to bed and read til eyes droop normally 11pm and 1-2 hrs later I'm lying awake again. This goes on all night long until I see 6.30-7am and I'm up again. Never have been a good deep sleeper, think my wee mind needs to turn off really. I'm even worse when I go on hols, etc, although I would take 3 hrs sleep a night if I could go on a lovely holiday now....next time shopping I'm trying the Pukka night tea that a gran suggested the other day.

Catlover21

Chill, don’t worry about it. You just happen to be keeping the same time as the west coast of America. They will all be asleep when you are! To get back to UK time you will probably get jet lag! If it’s not bothering anyone else there isn’t a problem

Back in the day when I was married to an American and visited in-laws in Upstate NY a couple of times a year I found the best solution to jet lag was to return on the Sunday night redeye and go straight to work on arrival, trying to get through the day as well as possible before going to bed at London bedtime. But my body has slowed down a lot since then.

Thank you for all the suggestions. I'll certainly try the ones that don't cost an arm and a leg!

J4ne

I think it does matter, that we are awake for most of the daylight hours, for vitamin D absorption. A broken hip I do not want!

I do have my Vitamin D supplement, as a shielding person, thanks to the Scottish government. Is that available in England too? Of course Vitamin D deficiency is a big problem in Scotland anyway, with the short (and often dreich) days in winter. Long, lazy summer evenings in summer make up for that a lot but a Glasgow January can be a wee bit grim! The sun has shone brightly for the last couple of days, mind.

Tooyoungytobeagrandma

I got rid of my husband, worked really well for my sleep pattern

I can see what a help that might be but I can't do it in my current domestic arrangements. And there's no way I'm getting rid of the Management.

Where would one buy Mango Kush from, I wonder.

I wish i could sleep until midday. What a luxury.
If the op want to sleep that long, then good luck to her.
When the lighter mornings arrive I think your sleep patterns will change. But yes, do try to get out for a walk at some point during the day. Do you go out at all?

Download Insight timer it’s free. Use Sleep Hypnosis with Jony Baker it works for me x

Seajaye

I have had issues with sleep pattern previously, all connected with anxiety. Perhaps Covid isolation/ loneliness, and boredom may be affecting your brain patterns. I found some daily exercise, a daily routine for the day to include a regular breakfast time and bedtime, and not eating late at night. Make sure your bedroom is a TV, laptop, phone free zone. It's worth reading up on resetting body clock and sleep hygiene.

I think Covid isolation has a great deal to do with it. I could cope in the summer. Not so much in January.

GoldenAge

LadyHonoria - you're right, it's not healthy - there's lots of research into the damage to mental health caused by the sleeping patterns of shift workers. Essentially you should sleep when it's dark, and be be awake and functioning when it's light. Your body needs natural light and this last year when people have been without holidays in the sunshine has shown itself to have been damaging to our levels of vitamin D3. Advice given to clients - Prepare to go to bed at 1000 pm. No reading on or off a screen unless it's a paper back and something light - no thrillers. In bed at 11.00 with the light off. Set the alarm for 7 or 8. If you don't fall asleep, get up and walk about, then back to bed, repeat until you fall asleep. When the alarm goes off at 7 or 8 get up - even though you're tired, you must get up and do what you have to do - do not allow yourself to nap in the day and follow the same pattern as the previous day. In about four days you will be sleeping normally in the night and awake in the day. This change to your body rhythm is in your hands. Melatonin will help but you shouldn't take this unless you get it from your GP. Good luck.

I went to bed at 9 last night because I felt tired. I read for a while - I'm getting into the 'Golden Age' crime fiction of Ngaio Marsh so nothing demanding, and in paperback form. And as somebody else said about herself, as soon as I put the light out and my head hit the pillow I was wide awake. According to Xi Jinping (the Huawei fitness monitor round my wrist) I eventually dropped off at 3.49am and then slept soundly for 8 hours. There's nothing wrong with my actual sleep, it's getting to sleep at a sensible time that's the problem!

I frequently have spells like this take advice from the thread if it bothers you but you are getting a good restful sleep so not really unhealthy

Pity you can't move into a different time zone such as OZ or NZ! just now!
Why not use your "awake" time usefully as Winston was said to do and join the "Night Owls" thread?
It will help take your mind off any problems you may have!
Sweet Dreams
OoRoo

I can't sleep so just hoovered

I've suffered from sleepless nights for years and tried everything. I start work at 5am and need to get up at 4am so I often go to work without any sleep. During this last year I decided to try all the things I've already tried a million times before and my sleep pattern has got so much better. I think it's a combination of taking VitD, decaf tea and a lavender spray put on my pillow. I'm not really a fan of the lavender smell but put up with it anyway. I can still get the odd sleepless night but my sleep has improved greatly and I'm averaging about 5 and a half hours a night and sometimes I even get 7 which I don't think I've had since I was a teenager. I also think getting out for a walk during the light hours is a must, we do get some in Glasgow, even if it's in the rain I walk for 30 mins a day. I did notice you said that you felt tired and went to bed, read for a while and when you put the light out couldn't get to sleep. I found if I did this I didnt get to sleep either but if I just tried to sleep straightaway I did. I think it was because I made myself overtired. Good luck, I hope you find whatever works for you soon.

If you want to turn this around, I suggest you don't take a nap during the day, if you are in the habit of doing so.

Then set you alarm for an hour earlier than you are waking of your own accord and get up immediately it rings.

The next day set it an hour earlier than the previous day.

If you are tired earlier in the evening, go to bed then.

This works for me, so I hope it will for you too.

to sleep after 10 am in the morning is not good in my opinion. How can you be tired for the night?
I am an early riser as it happens and go to bed at midnight.