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Yvette Cooper, live webchat, Tuesday 10 July, 1-2pm

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GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 28-Jun-12 20:31:27

Yvette Cooper is the Shadow Home Secretary, Shadow Minister for Women and Equalities and one of the most important figures in the current Labour Party, often tipped as a future leader. She has a particular interest in what she calls the stretched generation - looking after elderly parents, helping out with grandchildren, worrying about pensions. She's a mother of three and, with her husband Ed Balls, she's half of the first married couple to serve in the British cabinet.

We're delighted that she's coming in for a webchat. Please ask your questions here.

Foreveryoung Tue 10-Jul-12 11:58:32

Should George Osbourne apologise to Ed Balls, or should your Ed just grow a thicker skin?

Annobel Tue 10-Jul-12 12:45:22

Instead of messing about with winter fuel allowance and other so-called perks, would you agree that it would be easier to tax these (rather than means-test them) so that poorer senior citizens would still receive them but the better off would pay for them in proportion to their income.

merlotgran Tue 10-Jul-12 12:53:26

Hello Yvette,
By the time they retire, many grandparents will have already put in years of caring for elderly parents as well as providing essential support with grandchildren. If everyone is now going to have to work longer before they can retire, it won't be uncommon for the person who is sandwiched in the middle (usually a woman) to buckle under the strain especially as their partner could become ill or disabled and also be in need of care and support. Do you not think that riasing the retirement age, especially for women, will inevitably put an extra burden on the NHS?

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 13:04:46

Yvette has been delayed on the tube but will be here in five minutes. Apologies, but don't wander off....

floro Tue 10-Jul-12 13:08:29

Depressed that we have been scrimping and saving all our lives so we would be ok when we retired - and now it seems that there was no point whatsoever. What incentive is there for anyone to do this in future?

GeraldineGransnet (GNHQ) Tue 10-Jul-12 13:12:01

Yvette's here now and ready to go, so we'll get started.

Iwasframed Tue 10-Jul-12 13:14:09

Hi Yvette,

Isn't the flipped side of the stretched generation that men still aren't doing enough? How do we do something to change that?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:14:51

Hello. Sorry to be a little late. Really good to be here at Gransnet and thank you Geraldine and everyone for the crisps and tea waiting for me. I'll try to answer as many questions as fast as possible, but forgive the pace of my typing. Yvette

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:17:17

Grandnessa

How I agree with those previous gransnetters.
It can be difficult to be " in the middle"
Elderly parents to care for my parents
Both had dementia. We kept them at home
As long as possible with very little help. We
Also had to help with grandchildren when the
Sibling became very ill all when we are getting
Old ourselves. All this with very little help from
The state. It strikes me this can only get worse
As the population lives longer and parents
Both have to work to pay ridiculous mortgages. It's all a
Matter of priorities and this government seems
To have completely the wrong priorities.

I agree. People talk about a squeezed middle, but there's also a stretched middle - a middle generation of women in their fifties and sixties who are now looking after the younger generation and their elderly relatives at the same time. Which makes it even more troubling that women in their fifties have also seen a 40% increase in unemployment -- the steepest of any group -- in the last two years, and face the biggest hit to their pensions too.

cheeriblegran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:18:38

My mother is in a care home that is costing approximately £1200 a week and has been for a year. If she is there for another 6 months she will have exhausted her entire life savings and may well have to move - the council money won't remotely cover this - which will probably kill her, as well as leaving her destitute.

Do you agree there's something wrong with being in a position where you hope your mother will die because there are so few good options for her if she lives?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:20:06

Gally

How do you manage to give your children enough time? I chose to stay at home and raise my own children - I don't think they or I suffered; the only suffering I am doing now is living on half of my late husband's Private Pension which, considering what he did, is a pittance - how I wish he had worked in the Public sector!! Perhaps you could also tell me the whereabouts of my MP Mr Gordon Brown - he seems to have disappeared since he lost office?
We are told we Baby Boomers have it all - I don't think so, although I don't think I would like to be starting all over again right now. I have absolutely no faith in any Politician of any persuasion - how sad is that?

I wouldn't cope without my Mum. Ed and I take turns to do the school run each morning and we've always taken our children to and fro with us between Yorkshire and London each week, and we work hard to protect family time at weekends and in the evenings. But my Mum is the fourth emergency service in our family - if we suddenly have to work late she's brilliant at coming round and putting the kids to bed.

dopehed Tue 10-Jul-12 13:20:27

What is the answer to the stretched middle? Is it more state intervention? or are there other ways of supporting women at this time in our lives?

frantick Tue 10-Jul-12 13:22:33

I believe the editor of Vogue has said you are the woman she would most like to see in her magazine. Are you interested in clothes? Is it something you would ever do?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:23:55

GadaboutGran

Like Mamie, I too would like to hear your views on the demonisation of 'baby-boomers' (as if they are an homogenous group) and the repeated suggestion that there is an inter-generational war & those of us born in the post-war period are to blame for current problems we were somehow meant to predict (and presumably should have refused our free University education etc).

Gally and others raised this one too.

I strongly disagree with David Willetts, the Conservative Minister who has argued that the baby boom generation have had it too easy at the expense of everyone else. My impression is that particularly women in their fifties and sixties are doing more than anyone else to hold families and communities together - and are at the same time paying a heavier price than many other people from the double dip recession and coalition government policies. When child care tax credit is cut, it is often grandparents who take the strain, and when social care support is cut its the same generation that has to do more to look after their elderly relatives too.

goodenoughgran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:25:11

It looks as though the government isn't going to do anything about funding social care. Do you agree that this is one of the most urgent social problems we face - and what would Labour do?

Does the 'death tax' now look like a dreadful lost opportunity?

spamfilter Tue 10-Jul-12 13:28:20

There's been a fair bit of discussion on Gransnet about whether we want to be paid for looking after grandchildren - and the general feeling is no, because we love doing it and being paid for it would turn it into a different relationship.

So what other ways can you think of to help those of us who have - sometimes quite large - responsibilities caring for our grandchildren?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:29:57

dopehed

What is the answer to the stretched middle? Is it more state intervention? or are there other ways of supporting women at this time in our lives?

I think we have to start by giving older women in particular a stronger voice in politics. My view is that the coalition government really isn't listening and just doesn't get the damage they are doing with things like changes to the pension age for women in their fifties which mean they will lose thousands of pounds with very little time to plan. We have campaigned against that. But there are challenges to all politicians. For too long politicians and journalists have talked about young people, families with children and pensioners. That misses out a vital generation who are often still working or in active retirement, supporting their families too and I think the pressures on women in their fifties and sixties are often completely overlooked. That's why Labour is keen to set up an Older Women's Commission to give the stretched middle more of a voice - and yes, to look at issues like jobs, ageism, pensions, social care etc

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:32:31

Setting up and Older Women's Commission is all very well but wouldn't it become just another quango which costs a lot and achieves very little.

pudding Tue 10-Jul-12 13:33:35

Many of us are from the radical 60s generation. We prided ourselves on having different ideas about things from our parents. Traditionally older people have tended to get more conservative as they age. Do you expect our generation to become conservative or do you think we will go on being liberal and a bit bolshie?

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:34:02

The problem is Yvette that now this hare has been set running - baby boomers are ripping off younger generations - that people are starting to believe it. This lunchtime on You and Yours there was a programme about employment for older people and they read out a letter from a resentful 28 year old which was almost vitriolic. It seems that the Tories are trying to soften up the population to believe this myth. There are millions of middle aged and older people who have not had great careers and have not cashed in on the property boom.
The You and Yours busted a lot of myths. Worth a listen.
Any ideas how Labour can combat this big divisive myth that we are all in clover to the detriment of 28 year olds?

JessM Tue 10-Jul-12 13:36:24

Any ideas why I should join the Labour party having voted Labour all my life?

YvetteCooper Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:40

DavidH22

There is much cynicism surrounding politicians of all parties after the expenses scandal, links with big business, a feeling that policies favour a chosen few and that politicians have generally lost touch with, for want of a better phrase, the common man. How do you think Labour should try to get back to being a party of and for the people and clean up the image of politicians?
Second question if allowed: Are you and Ed able to leave politics outside once you shut your front door?

Second question first, David: we certainly talk about lots other than politics, we'd go mad if we didn't. And anyway three growing children make sure of it. Ed has just taken up piano lessons! Meanwhile I am trying and failing to grow vegetables. Even worse than last year, mice and pigeons are getting at the peas and lack of sun means I think the tomatoes will stay green for ever.

First question: Labour lost the election heavily - so we all know we have a lot of work to do, listening to people and making sure we are championing the things people really care about. There are still big differences in politics - I really don't think all politicians and all political parties are the same. For example I think the Coalition government is deeply wrong to give £40,000 as a tax cut for the richest people in the country, at the same time as taking away £3,000 from a working family on the minimum wage. We've been campaigning on this in the Labour party, but we know we still have a lot more to do.

quizzical Tue 10-Jul-12 13:39:46

It's often said that women start to feel invisible in middle age because there is still so much emphasis in the media etc on attractiveness. Television executives don't want presenters who have lines and unruly hair. How do we counter this and become more visible - especially if we have spent our lives caring for other people rather than becoming chief executives or politicians? That doesn't mean we don't have political views!

Barrow Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:22

I have always voted, always for the person not the party, but now for the first time I am so disillusioned with the current crop of politicians. I grew up in a home where my Father was a union activist and campaigned for the Labour candidates in elections. He felt that voting was really important but I now feel that no matter who I vote for nothing will change, no-one will listen to what the public actually wants and politicians of every party and merely looking out for themselves. What do you think politicians can do to recitify this feeling not just in me but in many of my friends.

pammygran Tue 10-Jul-12 13:42:28

When are you & your husband along with the rest of the Labour party, especially the ghastly Gordon Brown ,going to admit & apolgise for the appalling mess you left the country in regarding the economy?...even worse the number of immigrants you let in, changing this country forever..