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Gender Pay Gap

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Gracesgran Sat 27-Aug-16 13:41:43

I couldn't find a thread about this even though the Equalities Select Committee released their report in March and according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies women on average now earn 18 per cent less than men.

My reaction is not to be outraged - I probably would be but I don't think that has made any difference so far, but to wonder just what can be done now. The Ford's Dagenham machinists strike for equal pay for work of equal value was in 1968(!) and we have achieved this in many cases but obviously not overall.

I was prompted to ask your opinion because of the strap-line in an article in The New Statesman by Helen Lewis (sorry I can't find a link, perhaps someone else can). This says "Getting women to enter male fields won't close the gender pay gap - those jobs just lose their prestige." I felt this had a ring of truth and wondered what others think.

It does seem to be a mainly motherhood gap and I wonder too what can be done about that.

thatbags Mon 29-Aug-16 11:58:44

Thanks for the link, elegran.

JessM Mon 29-Aug-16 13:32:47

Yes you are right bags that it exists and it depends how competitive their business environment.
There was a representative of a top city firm talking about the issue on R4 and they had looked at the problem and changed policies and procedures to retain and reward female talent and potential instead of letting it drift away.
gracesgran - under the present benefits regime, large numbers of unemployed people have been pressured into becoming "self employed". This counts as a win for the organisations that are contracted to help people find work. However starting up as any kind of self employed not easy and you have no paid holidays or anything like that. There has also been a trend of organisations of all kinds taking on people on a "self employed" basis to avoid giving them full rights and fair pay. Happened to my niece, working for a university owned museum (not an unscrupulous private business!). Recruitment freeze in place. So what should have been a humble part time job - a job that needed doing on a permanent basis - was given to her as a part time "consultant" and she had to sort out all her own tax etc etc. and never able to feel fully part of the team.
I was annoyed during the election campaign that these people were getting counted twice - as part of the "numbers who had found work" as well as being touted by Cameraon as part of the number of "new businesses we have created" .

granjura Mon 29-Aug-16 13:42:36

JessM, exactly what our DD1 is doing in her top performing City Firm. First step is to get other Partners/Senior managers to admit there is an issue to be addressed. Once that is accepted- the rest becomes much easier.

Elegran Tue 30-Aug-16 15:08:24

Another interesting article about (and by) women in business Do women want different business advice from men? It includes a video by Justine Roberts, founder of Mumsnet.