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Someone else who gets it wrong about Corbyn all the time.

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Not at all. Now why don't you find something interesting to say instead of trying to goad me? So childish

How about obsessed?

Really? I don't think so, I wrote the thread title and I don't hate. I don't trust him, I think him deceitful , that's it. Hate is such a waste of energy as are all negative emotions

I think Mr Corbyn keeps his personality well hidden most of the time. He has given the occasional flash of contempt which I really don’t like. And the thought of them others .....

This thread really ought to be entitled

Obsession: my hatred of Corbyn

And people have been asked to stop telling posters how and what to post, they never oblige

Corbyn hasn't got a personality

People have been asked many times to state what policies they find unacceptable in the Labour manifesto. They never do so. If there are things they want to change they should focus on those and stop attempting to destroy personalities.

I do not want Corbyn as PM, with him comes McDonald, Abbott, Len McClusky , plus the voters who moved from the communist party to Labour when Corbyn became leader.

This is what we will get lemon, now he needs to get middle England turn out to vote for him .

Why is it of interest to none LP members that Blair won three elections? People don't vote (well not thinking people) just for someone that knows how to win. If he didn't stand for the politics they wanted to vote for it's irrelevant; if he did they presumably chose to vote in that direction. It is history to them whatever way they voted - they will just not be interested in the internecine strife and petty jibes.

From a Labour Party point of view those who disagree with the leadership and the direction the majority is taking the party have several choices. They can persuade, by presenting a positive case, from within or they can leave and start a new party or they can wait and put their case in future party elections. What they are actually doing is making personal attacks on people who have been democratically elected and whinging. It is not a good look and certainly not an attractive one to people outside the LP. It's looks as if they would rather the LP to failed than succeeded with policies they, the minority, don't agree with.

You make the simple mistake of thinking that all in the LP should think as you do and espouse very left wing ideas and policies.
The average Labour voter does not wish to see such as Corbyn as PM, is this so difficult to understand?

Labour MP’s are distinct from Labour voters trisher

.....and the LP dismisses them at it’s peril! Why do you think Labour lost the election this year?
If Corbyn had the support of all Labour voters, he would have won easily, of course the lacklustre campaign run by the Conservatives weakened them, but that should have played into Corbyns hands even more....but it didn’t.

You actually mean the right and the centre leaning Labour MP’s trisher oh, and the slightly left as well.
Hardly mainstream Lbour voters lemon Do you sometimes not read what you post?

Glad that something amuses you trisher

I was, in any case. Talking about mainstream Labour voters, who may or may not be actual Party members, not wanting to put Corbyn into Number 10.There are many of them.

lemongrove we have discussed the shift of all politics to the right before. Those whom you now call far-left are no such thing. It amuses me that you regard ordinary people who believe in policies espoused by many in 1945 as far left or communists. It's simply untrue.

So are you saying if the unions, the left wingers and the MPs who had doubts about him had chosen to stand against him Blair would still have won those elections Annie? I don't think so. The party would have been split and Blair would have lost.

Incorrect, after the wilderness years the majority in the party knew the country feared the far left , it was voters who put Blair in No.10, voters from across the country , memories of the strikes, power cuts, refuge in the streets for weeks, unburied loved ones. he did it without a long list of rainbow promises, no musical instruments for every child, no free school meals for children of parents in professional jobs. N.I. Peace talks not pushing N I out of the U K .

This was reaching the many

Blair won three elections mostly because the majority of the British public liked his policies and saw him as a better option for PM than anyone in the other parties.
Who are all these right wingers choosing to be so destructive? Free speech is just that.

You actually mean the right and the centre leaning Labour MP’s trisher oh, and the slightly left as well.
They see Corbyn as the destructive force.

Blair won 3 elections partly because those who thought him too far to the right behaved like adults and supported him and the party. Had they behaved as the right wingers are now the party would have been split and probably never have recovered. What a pity the right wing now choose to be so destructive.

Freedom of speech GG, I couldn't see any point in you going on about the politics of Norway, I have no intention of moving there, you were interested in it , your choice.

By the by, Blair won three elections on the trot, no Momentum in the shadows, no Union leaders having desks in Labour H.Q. No prospective MP's signing bits of paper promising loyalty to him.

Just voters across the U.K. voting for a Labour Party without the fear of the far left and union dominance .

I have a very busy day, toodle pip

That is exactly the problem, a lot of Labour voters are having to either ‘hold their noses’ and vote for Corbyn to be PM or not vote at all. Labour MP’s have had a difficult job trying to persuade voters to vote for their standing MP ( more or less hissing in their ears that Corbyn won’t be there forever.)