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Taking their phones off them

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maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 07:18:35

It’s come to something hasn’t it when a group of people supposedly running the country and gathering together today to discuss the most important issue affecting this country and it’s future, have to give their phones in because they can’t be trusted. Heaven help us all

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 15:14:54

Don't be ridiculous ml, people who constantly imply how superior they are as does Grandad, are are just boring and tiresome. I do voluntary work now and again, but I don't tell anyone, let alone make it sound as if I'm superior being because of it!

Chewbacca Fri 06-Jul-18 15:53:47

Well certainly not true about nurses and teachers as a general rule - depends on employer
It most certainly is 100% true in the schools in this area. My DDIL is a primary school teacher and she is not allowed to have her mobile phone switched on whilst with her pupils. The reason she has been given for this is due to mobile phones having a camera in them and child protection issues. My niece is a Staff Nurse and she also is not allowed to have her mobile phone on her whilst she's on duty. Privacy issues possibly. In addition, I have worked for several employers who have stipulated that mobile phones are switched to silent whilst you're working and we could neither make, nor receive calls during working hours.

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 16:02:53

There is a slight difference Chewbacca between having your phone on silent and having to give it up, and it's that slight differenc that is being discussed. Phones are also useful in meetings to access relevant documents, e-mails or texts. And are much more environmentally friendly than printing out loads of papers. I can only think that the cabinet cannot be trusted to use them properly. Which says a lot about this government and how divided they are.
But I would like to see all the MPs handing in their phones before Parliament sits. Do they not realise how awful they look tapping away?

Ilovecheese Fri 06-Jul-18 16:30:46

I don't understand the problem with Grandad talking about his office. Surely it's just the same as someone else talking about their grandchildren, it's just part of life.

Or an explanation of why someone wont be commenting immediately, because they have something else they need to do.
Would it be a problem if someone else said they wouldn't be posting for a while because they had to pick up their grandchildren?

sunseeker Fri 06-Jul-18 16:41:29

As someone said earlier, perhaps this is due to security precautions with phones apparently being easily switched on and hacked.

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 16:41:44

Only if they were implying that it made them somehow superior!!!

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 16:42:23

Yes, it would be, if they continually said that ilovecheese
Why would we need to know?
It’s something I have noticed that particular poster do all the time with ‘his office’. Seems a very male thing to do tbh.
Of course, he is at liberty to do it, but I and others are at liberty to find it rather irritating and condescending.

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 16:44:25

I thinks so sunseeker and that Brid made a valid point about ‘the wording’.

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 18:30:27

I think you need to feel a little inadequate personally to find someone mentioning their office condescending. It just makes me think "Thank goodness I don't have that to worry about!'

suzied Fri 06-Jul-18 18:38:57

It’s because there as been a history of leaks in the past and TM wants a news blackout. We know these talks won’t go well if they disagree and if they do all agree it will be a fudge which won’t be accepted by the EU.

nigglynellie Fri 06-Jul-18 18:54:08

I think somebody who has to keep telling others about their work arrangements which clearly, in not so many words, gives them superior understanding of all things political when chatting to elderly grannies is the inadequate one!!

MawBroon Fri 06-Jul-18 18:57:02

smile nigglynellie but let us not disparage Busy and Important People.

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 19:07:01

What do you suggest he does? Keep quiet? Not post about things he does or knows about? It is just another perspective on the question being discussed and if you don't like it that's tough, but the fact that it is about work and an office environment doesn't make it any more or less valid than any other opinion. But some of you are much more concerned with who posts things than on the actual words, and with sniping at particular posters. It is silly and a bit pathetic.

Grandad1943 Fri 06-Jul-18 19:14:59

Many thanks to forum members who have come out in support of me in regard to the personal attacks that have transpired in this thread. In that, I am sure that many will realise that a forum member only has to state the truth at present in regard to the total shambles the Conservative party is in, and the Tories on the forum will make personal attacks on the poster as they have no other answers to put forward.

In regard to refiring to the office, I only speak of working if I have posted on a thread several times and then I will state if I am in the office working for the rest of that day or I am actually working and will not be able to respond further for a considerable period of time. That I would call common courtesy to others on the forum, but obviously there are those that do not recognise "common courtesy" when they see it.

In regard to me trying to be superior to others, well, today I have been at the largest sewage treatment plant in the West Country in the course of my work duties looking at changes that have been made to the methane plant over a number of months. I certainly would not think that many people would view that as superior work or myself portraying that as being above anything.

To me the close-knit team who operate and work that site 24 hours a day 365 days of the year in often dangerous conditions are the people who are superior to all others in their service to all of us.

However, thinking about that, it must be that some who post on this forum must have at some time worked there, considering the "stink" they always try to kick up over nothing but trivialities

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 19:17:49

It’s simply boring Grandad43 to constantly tell all and sundry your every move.
But carry on regardless ( am sure you will.)

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 19:19:31

It’s not ‘common courtesy’ to tell a forum where and when you will be next posting, it’s totally unnecessary.

trisher Fri 06-Jul-18 19:51:09

It's also boring lemongrove to personalise a discussion, but that doesn't seem to stop you.

Grandad1943 Fri 06-Jul-18 19:52:42

Well, if someone is stating the truth in regards to the state of the Tory party and this government, no doubt you would see it as unnecessary Lemon.

Telly Fri 06-Jul-18 19:57:34

I watched a family of 4 at a restaurant at lunch recently and I certainly thought that someone should come along and take their phones off them!

maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 20:07:03

lemon why do you find it necessary to be so rude - you do realise that your snippy comments say far more about you than they do about the person you are being so pathetic about? And why is it only left of centre posters you vent your childish spleen on?

maryeliza54 Fri 06-Jul-18 20:11:26

higgly you might think that posters are implying - what I see is you inferring- and what you infer says to me that your posts show a bit of an inferiority complex. Plenty of posters who are retired draw on their work experience when discussing issues on here - what’s the difference between that and dating on current work experience?

Eloethan Fri 06-Jul-18 23:05:15

Well, I'd rather have Grandad talking about his work and issues connected to it than a load of people being spiteful. At least he is generally of a very pleasant disposition.

lemongrove Fri 06-Jul-18 23:49:09

Oh maryeliza ?

POGS Sat 07-Jul-18 01:48:51

Why is this a strange act that has caused such anymosity?

It's nothing new !

The way this story , or non story dependent on how you rate it in the scheme of things, has been picked up on by Joe Soap who wishes to make something out of nothing to politically point score is a tad pathetic.

David Cameron banned mobile phones during his time as PM and for what it's worth Parliament should never have allowed their use whilst sitting as it is ignorant and makes them look totally disinterested in being there to listen and debate.

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8679648.stm

Cameron's coalition: Mobile phones banned from cabinet

' Members of David Cameron's new cabinet have been banned from having their mobile phones and Blackberrys with them during meetings. '
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www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/nov/25/what-were-labour-mps-doing-on-their-mobile-phones-in-parliament

' When Labour’s John McDonnell stood up to respond to the autumn statement on Wednesday, half his party’s MPs started noodling on their phones behind him. Was it the height of rudeness – or all part of a modern-day MP’s duties?'

(See photo)

Talking of David Cameron I still like his comment " Too many tweets can make a tw*t ". Very true and a lot have found that out for themselves.

maryeliza54 Sat 07-Jul-18 06:45:55

You seem to have missed the point POGS .This cabinet exhibits division, in fighting, bitterness, backstabbing on a grand scale. Previous bans on mobile phones were to stop interruptions or distractions - this was to stop leaks. SPADs were also banned for the same reasons. At the end of the meeting it was a further half hour or so before they got them back. As for Labour MPs using their phones in Parliament - of course it’s wrong butMPs of all parties do it. <rolls eyes>