Breast Ironing in young girls

No PECS, why ?

EV, I don't know why you mention the Sikhs. The Sikh community has been in the UK for years, integrated and going about their business. The ceremonial sword is part of their religion.

FGM and breast ironing are not part of a specific culture or religion and are a hateful and mysogynist act.

You can't just lump together all non white people as " these people"

Lily65 I only mentioned the Sikhs to make a point about our copycat generation in this country. I happen to like the Sikhs and also the Gurkhas who both did us proud during wars.
Because it's part of their heritage/history to carry these knives the British hooligans think it's right and proper that they too should also.
The same with this mutilation that goes on amongst that population whose belief it is to carry out this barbarous act you have our own " home-grown " following suit because they can. There's no deterrent in place and no MP/Politician to condone it goes on.

The " get out of jail free " card then comes in the form of an excuse for mental health problems-------my eye !

Everything that happens now is excused on the grounds of Mental Health and I'm sick of hearing it.

OK so because some Sikhs sometimes carry ceremonial knives, British Youths are going to copy this.

Because some groups practise FGM and breast ironing, this is going to be copied by others

And people are pretending to be mentally ill because it suits their agenda to do so.

I don't agree at all.

Lily 65

" FGM and breast ironing are not part of a specific culture or religion and are a hateful and mysogynist act."
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How is it a misogynist act?

Breast Ironing is carried out by females , usually the mother!
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What is it if not an African ' culture ' ?

From Hansard 26th March 2016

Extract from Conservative MP Jake Berry:-

" It is against the perspective of this lengthy struggle that I wish to raise the issue of breast ironing. It is perhaps unsurprising that so few people have heard of it. Breast ironing—or breast flattening, as it is often referred to—is believed to have originated in Cameroon but is also found in Nigeria, the Republic of Guinea, South Africa, Chad, Togo, Benin, Birmingham and London. It is the practice of pounding the developing breasts of young girls with objects heated over coals or on a stove, and it tends to be performed on girls from about the age of 10 up until the end of puberty. Hot stones, hammers and spatulas are used twice a day for several weeks or months to stop or delay, and in some cases permanently destroy, the natural development of the breast.

Girls subjected to this abuse are told by the perpetrators that it is necessary to continue with this abhorrent practice until it no longer hurts. This gives us some idea of the unimaginable pain and suffering they are subjected to. Breast ironing exposes girls to numerous health issues, such as cancer, abscesses, itching, discharge of milk, infection and asymmetry of the breasts. Girls who undergo breast ironing can expect to experience an increased prevalence of breast cysts, breast infections, severe fever, tissue damage and even the complete disappearance of one or both breasts."
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allafrica.com/stories/201804110675.html

" Breast ironing is mostly practiced in parts of Cameroon, where the perception by boys and men is that if a girls breasts have begun to grow', she is ready for sex. The most widely used implement for breast ironing is a wooden pestle normally used for pounding tubers. This is followed by leaves, bananas, coconut shells, grinding stones, ladles, spatulas, and hammers heated over coals.

The practice has also been reported across West and Central Africa, in Benin, Chad, Ivory Coast, Guinea-Bissau, Guinea-Conakry, Kenya, Togo and lower down in Zimbabwe."

You know what POGS I have no wish to continue. It's a hideous thing.

It cannot possibly be discussed alongside Gurkas, Sikhs and so on.

Ellan Vannin are you having a laugh? Do you think English men never carried knives before Sikhs lived in the UK? Jack the ripper?

POGS are you seriously suggesting that an act cannot be misogynistic because it’s carried out by a woman? Really? Really? I think the nuns in those dreadful mother and baby homes/ laundries were also extremely misogynistic and GN has its own share of misogynistic attitudes being expressed. One of the reasons that patriarchy exists is that women collude, facilitate and enable it because of their negative attitudes towards other women

Maryeliza

No it isn't mysogyny!

The mothers and women who carry out Breast Ironing do not ' hate ' / ' dislike ' the girls.