No repeat Brexit vote this week?

I am going to have some meaningful Budweisers later



roll on WTO no Deal.

Of course it’s easy to blame the Tories for the mess we are now in but it goes back further than that. If Milliband had made a decent showing at the 2015 election Cameron would not have been elected AND if Corbyn had actually made some effort in the next one it would have been all sorted long ago
As it is we have had a totally impotent opposition for the last 8 yrs and it has taken Bercow to shake TMs confidence and he’s supposed to be independent.

Ginny42, Quote [ Well done Bercow for bringing the House to order in an example of how sovereignty works. Surely someone in TM's entourage should have known this was going to happen. You might have expected someone on the Labour benches to have known this too.]End Quote

Ginny42, I would totally agree with almost all of your above post except for the last sentence. In that, there were undoubtedly MPs on the Labour benches that did realise what Theresa May was doing was an abuse of the House of Commons rules.

However, that would have made little difference as May, and the rest of the Numties in this useless government are totally responsible for this Brexit debacle and have been at every stage since 2016.

It's the Tories that have brought us all to the crisis situation we are in now, and the Labour party have not been able to change that as they are not the government.

Anyway in the office now, so better get my head down. Look forward to posting again later on this subject.

Oh! What a tangled web we weave when once we practise to leave.

I thought she had re-hashed the deal for this attempt?
I must have got it wrong.

Well done Bercow for bringing the House to order in an example of how sovereignty works. Surely someone in TM's entourage should have known this was going to happen. You might have expected someone on the Labour benches to have known this too.

May was blatantly attempting to force the House to accept her deal and creating a crisis in full view of the viewing public. Her aides allowed her to make a fool of herself.

Erskine May is currently in charge of Brexit. No relation apparently.

If we can get a long extension then that lends the possibility of all sorts of change, not least a change of ‘leadership’.

In crushing the life out of debate by using the clock, in using no-deal or no-Brexit as lethal weapons, the prime minister has caused a constitutional crisis not seen in our lifetimes. Bercow is right to seize back sovereignty for the Commons against the abuse of power by May and her chaotic government.

The PM could prorogue Parliament and call another session and present her deal again in another session, where it will probably fail. A lengthy extension seems to be another option. Whatever happens the constitutional crisis deepens, this government is throwing money down a black hole, important domestic issues are being ignored.

This government is, without doubt, the worst administration this country has had since the collapse of the Chamberlin led Tory government in nineteen forty.

That too left Britain totally unprepared for events that took place in Europe.

Apparently, MPs may be asked to vote on whether this 400 year old rule should be ‘set aside’(ignored). Can’t say I’m surprised since they’re disregarding old rules and making up new ones as they go along anyway!

Bercow certainly knows how to throw a spanner into the works, now it all depends what the EU can agree for an extension. That may not be easy because it needs to be unanimous and agreeing at all is not a given.

So is TMs deal really dead, or will it be resurrected at 11pm on the 28th.

Ps my post was less about "entertainment" and more of a plea for a reincarnated gang led by Catesby and Fawkes!

Yes indeed Lucky
It's months since I said that a different country faced with the facts we've seen on deception, lies and bribery, would be facing international charges of corruption and would have the vote overturned and rerun!

There is nothing entertaining about this - it is disgraceful how this issue is being dealt with politically. Bribery and chicanery - which seem to be playing out in full view, with no attempt to pretend otherwise.

How can we be a part of organisations monitoring elections in dubious, and supposedly less civilised, democracies when this is playing out here? It feels totally sickening.

Yes, I agree this bizarre situation unfolding each day failed the democracy test some time ago. I feel for those who jobs and livelihood depend on having some idea of what sort of terms we will leave on.........or not. However entertaining the drama may be for some of us, the outcome may be devastating for many.

I liked the comment that it has been a very rare event for the Speaker to rule out the introduction of a motion/ debate/vote on the grounds that it's substantially the same as one which has previously been debated. I think it's something like 5 times since 1604.
Shortly after the ruling in 1604 there was the Gunpowder Plot.
Bring it on!

Indeed Lucky, how right you are.

I have been puzzled for the last week as to how it is possible to put the same motion to the house over and over again. It would seem it is not possible. That does make logical sense as a principle, whatever the motion. There must be some rule that says the same motion cannot be put within a certain time frame.

Not taking Brexit sides here, but it is a bit sickening for the House to be asked the same thing again, while in between parties are being bribed to vote as PM wants. That cannot be democracy nor anything remotely near it.

Absolute madness

Well!

21 month extension with a GE or PV, or, crash out in 12 day's time with no deal?

I have been enjoying the drama in the House of Commons, and seeing Mrs May's face when she didn't get the result she wanted. It's interesting to hear what journalists are saying about her.

Yes, me too, because they're so 'meaningful'!

Well that's a bit disappointing. I do like these "meaningful" votes.

That's good news. What we need to do now is either leave as planned with no deal...or delay, push Mrs May aside, get together and thrash out a deal which best benefits the UK, not the EU.