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Cosmos Wed 20-Mar-19 07:29:53

He must be the most embarrassing awful person on the planet, but as a Speaker, he makes everything about him, he is not impartial. He has typical "little man syndrome" because he is so ineffectual, smirking and meddling like a errant schoolboy. This latest stunt just about sums him up, who dares about the country, the chaos, as long as his final parting shot stopped everyone in their tracks, he waited until the 12th hour. When I think how impartial and dignified Betty Bootgroyd was, how did this man, trailing his equally mixed up, loud mouthed wife, ever get elected. He was confronted yesterday,where he never answered a question of waiting reporters and public, by someone be calling him traitor. How true, he is working against the country not with it.

Beckett Thu 21-Mar-19 08:57:00

You may not support a second referendum but many on here who support him are calling for it

POGS Thu 21-Mar-19 09:59:55

sylviemc

"Bercow is just doing his job with a little flamboyancy - when was that ever a problem in politics though - he is an entertaining and intelligent speaker who doesn't just toe the line - wonderful man"
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A wonderful man.!

Look up his early years and thoughts.

Named as an MP who 'Flipped' his home during the Expenses Scandle period.

What about the connection between Bercow and the Dame Laura Cox Inquiry into Bullying and Harrasment in Parliament and I don't mean just the allegations against Bercow himself that should have been investigated, I mean the subsequent handling of the findings and what some see as a total whitewash. How was that allowed to happen?

He called The Leader of the House ' A stupid woman' and reportedly ' f-----g useless'. Although he only admitted to calling her ' A stupid woman'. No wonder he let Corbyn off for doing the same thing.

He is tantamount to being a hypocrite who uses Parliamentary Convention accordingly to allign with his own personal view and on one hand he wants to be seen as a Progressive/Moderniser and overrides Parliamentary Convention to set ' New Precedent' but when it suits says he must abide by Parliamentary Convention from hundreds of years ago.

Bercow is rude, humiliates MP's by the use of sarcasm and ridicule and is most certainly NOT abiding by the code required to be Speaker. :-

' Speakers remain strictly NON - PARTISAN and renounce all affiliation with their former political parties when taking office and afterwards. The Speaker does not take part in debate or vote (except to break ties; and even then, the convention is that the speaker casts the tie-breaking vote according to Speaker Denison's rule). '

I have the opportunity to watch a lot of Parliament Live and both Deputy Speaker Labour MP Lindsay Hoyle and Deputy Speaker Conservative MP Eleanor Laing are by far better than Bercow, especially over the subject of bias and personal behaviour.

Entertaining is not what I consider to be a quality in the role of Speaker and that unfortunately is what Bercow is ' A Showman'.

Anja Thu 21-Mar-19 12:33:06

No Beckett a second referendum would be asking about TM’s deal.

Grandad1943 Thu 21-Mar-19 13:07:42

Well, ALL MPs must have been very aware of the character of the person they were electing as speaker, as Following the 2017 general election, as Bercow was re-elected, again unopposed, as Speaker, on 13 June 2017. He is the first Speaker since the Second World War to be elected to the post three times.

He was elected unanimously to chair the House of Comnons procedures as he sees fit, and that he is doing.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 13:29:56

Grandad in the alternative universe that is GN only certain politicians have back stories - the ones that the posters disagree with.

Day6 Thu 21-Mar-19 13:47:23

Rod Liddle writes in the Spectator that Bercow is now loved by Guardian readers, and he most Remainers in the public eye are deemed "brave". His response

www.spectator.co.uk/2019/03/on-the-subject-of-john-bercow/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_content=230319_Weekly_Highlights_12&utm_campaign=Weekly_Highlights

"it is the Remainers trying every possible trick in the book to halt the process who are lauded.
Bercow is just the most visible symbol of the establishment using technicalities and chicanery to subvert the will of the people. Could I suggest that it is comparatively easy to be brave when you have the entire establishment behind you?"

Well said.

lemongrove Thu 21-Mar-19 13:54:36

Very well said, that man.??

Ginny42 Thu 21-Mar-19 14:24:32

Oh for crying out loud! She was wrong to attempt to bring the same motion for a third time. It seems many MP were fully cognisant with the Erskine May ruling and couldn't understand why Bercow didn't call her out sooner. She was simply hoping to brazen it out.

maryeliza54 Thu 21-Mar-19 14:40:03

Anyone who thinks that anything Rod Liddle writes is worth the effort of reading has clearly lost the plot - the man is a complete buffoon

POGS Thu 21-Mar-19 14:41:55

Is the Speaker always re-elected unopposed?

This is what has happened in practice. Every Speaker who has been re-elected to the House – normally with other parties not putting up rival candidates in the constituency – has been re-elected to that post.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 15:02:35

Secondly Bercow was doing his job

Bercow didn't dredge it up, an mp (not sure who, maybe one of the Eagles) mentioned it during a debate and he thanked her for reminding him of it. It was also tabled for an amendment last week by someone but then withdrawn apparently.

Would he have realised, then, if Angela Eagle and A N Other had not mentioned this last week?

Is it time for another woman to take over as Speaker next? I propose Angela Eagle.

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 17:08:52

he is a cute little devil, out we go WTO in a week, in law nothing can stop it, we the majority who voted, won, despite all the hassle and awkwardness from those who do not want us to leave...

democracy

majority

love those words

gringringrin

andycameron69 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:45:38

7 days to go.....out totally it will happen, call me belinda brexita

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:46:20

too bad, too sad andy

Day6 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:52:03

Anyone who thinks that anything Rod Liddle writes is worth the effort of reading has clearly lost the plot

We will have to disagree.
On the contrary, Rod Liddle is very clever, erudite and entertaining and cuts like a knife through that Remainer 'elite' sense of middle class entitlement and smugness.

Wish we had more like him.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:53:06

He is a bit of a shitbag though.

Sorry to use bad language.

Day6 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:56:22

Who? Bercow?

I'd agree. grin

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:56:45

I voted remain and do not have an elite sense of middle class entitlement and smugness

I remember when Rod Liddle was married to Rachel Royce - and then abandoned her after 11 years together, two children and four months of marriage.

He is a very unpleasant character.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:57:39

Who? Bercow?
No, Rod Liddle

Too clever for his own good or anyone else's for that matter.

Ginny42 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:57:44

She's got the extension until May 22nd.

Jalima1108 Thu 21-Mar-19 19:58:42

The day before the European elections!

varian Thu 21-Mar-19 20:03:51

"Elite" is a very brexity description of anyone who produces evidence that brexit is a seriously bad idea. Scientists, businessmen, farmers, doctors, trade union leaders, professionals, academics, pollsters, economists, environmentalists, and anyone else who has taken the trouble to properly inform themselves are all "elites" .

Nigel Farage, Jacob Rees Mogg, Rupert Murdoch, Arron Banks, Steve Bannon, the owners of national newspapers, Russian billionaires, currency traders and speculators and tax exiles are not "elites"!!!!

Really?????

varian Thu 06-Jun-19 13:35:24

The Speaker of the House, John Bercow, says ending the current session of Parliament to force through a no-deal Brexit is "simply not going to happen".

Tory leadership candidate Dominic Raab has suggested he would be prepared to shut down Parliament to ensure the UK leaves the EU on 31 October.

But the suggestion of using the process - known as prorogation - has led to criticism from many MPs.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48541352

GrannyGravy13 Thu 06-Jun-19 13:53:26

Varian, I seldom agree with you on political threads, but I as a Conservative leave voter think this is an abominable idea.

I sincerely hope that the MPs ensure he does not make the last 2 in the leadership race.

Caledonai14 Thu 06-Jun-19 15:52:39

I can't believe Dominic Raab is serious with the suggestion that parliament could be shut to ensure a No Deal Brexit goes through.

If he is, then I think he may just have ruled himself out of the leadership battle.