John McDonnell - fee paying scholar to Marxist

This idea that the Labour Party want to level everyone down is old hat. You can be a socialist and do well in your career, Earn a lot of money, drink champagne, and invest in property. On the way you will have contributed to the economy in taxes, and believe that everyone should have the chance to make the most of their opportunities, which means providing good schools, health and social care for all, including safety nets for those who are poor, disadvantaged, ill, old, or suffering from mental and physical disabilities.

I see JMcD as having traded one dogma for another - from Roman Catholicism to Marxism. He no longer follow the Catholic faith & describes himself as an atheist, but he wholeheartedly & rigorously subscribes to the political dogmas & absolutes associated with Marx, Trotsky et al.

Whether he did or didn’t, it is may be worth a mention in passing but to devote a whole thread ?????.

Maybe having a very good education made him realise how important education is and now wants everyone to have a good education regardless of whether they can pay for it.

I don't actually agree with abolishing private schools but really don't see why it is right that they are regarded as charities...

So what its hardly his fault he went to a private school and as for owning two houses maybe one was inherited, so does it matter.

Was does matter is that private schools are treated as a charity and do not pay WAT on any equipment etc. Our state schools pay VAT and parents end up helping out. Is that fair Annie?

...at least he didn't seem to go around trashing restaurants etc like Johnson's lot....

Whether he did or didn’t, it is may be worth a mention in passing but to devote a whole thread ?????.

Is it because you feel ONLY YOU know what might be of interest on the ‘news & politics’ threads WWmk2
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If it isn’t of interest it will die off surely?

Why are you so mean?

Would it be worse if he had gone to Eton and his parents had paid? Or maybe there’s a lot of people would keep that under wraps!

I think that phrase you are using is mean in itself Urmonston! I mean'Why are you so mean?' That is horrible.

Come the revolution, brother, the Rolls Royce is mine ?

Oh, I like that petra! Sums up the situation nicely.

Can we think this through logically. If you close all private schools that means a huge influx into state schools - which are already overcrowded. Where are the teachers coming from? Those employed in private schools would mostly go abroad because they would not earn as much in state schools. More schools would have to be built, where would the pupils go whilst that is happening?

What is needed is for teaching in state schools to be made attractive for teachers, higher salaries, less paperwork and box ticking and more teaching,

I believe 7% of children are privately educated so it wouldn't be a vast number to absorb into the state system and some teachers in private schools would want to stay in the UK.

I agree with that Oldwoman

How do you feel about JMcD? He apparently scavenged for discarded herring on the Great Yarmouth quayside. He was fed on broken biscuits, he has claimed.
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Hmm.

What I can't stand is the using of the type of schooling you receive as a stick to beat. It's pathetic; but so is the current LP.

Broken biscuits! Did he have to fight the gulls off with the sword of socialism; did he share them out.

All the more credit to him for taking pity on the plight of the less fortunate. That’s sort of in keeping with Christianity I’d have thought. Love thy neighbour and all that? The Good Samaritan etc.

Perhaps people should actually read this...

Schools policies in the Labour manifesto

1. A £10.5 billion increase in the schools budget by 2022-23

2. A fairer funding formula “that leaves no child worse off”

3. Maximum class sizes of 30 for all primary school pupils

4. Scrapping key stage 1 and 2 SATs and baseline assessments, refocusing assessment on “supporting pupil progress”

5. £160 million arts pupil premium to fund arts education for every primary school child (cost rises to £175m by 2023-24)

6. A review of the curriculum to ensure that it “enriches students and covers subjects such as black history and continues to teach issues like the Holocaust”

7. Bringing free schools and academies under the control of parents, teachers and local communities

8. Giving schools control over budgets and day-to-day decisions, overseen by “an accountable governing body with elected representatives”

9. Putting councils in charge of admissions and allowing them to open schools

10. Putting NES regional offices in charge of delivery and co-ordination of schools, including peer-to-peer improvement based on the London Challenge

11. A common rulebook for all schools, set out in legislation

12. Replacing Ofsted with a new body “designed to drive school improvement”

13. A teacher supply service to tackle wasted money going to private agencies

14. Making schools accountable for the outcomes of pupils who leave their rolls

15. “Proper regulation” of all education providers

16. Reform of alternative provision

17. Extending free school meals to all primary school children

18. Encouraging breakfast clubs

19. Tackling the cost of school uniforms

20. The return of the school support staff negotiating body and national pay settlements for teachers

21. Closing the tax loopholes that currently apply to private schools

22. Charging VAT on private school fees

23. Tasking the Social Justice Commission with advising on the integration of private schools and the creation of a comprehensive education system

Where does it say closing private schools?

Now this is real posh

Song entitled the Bullingdon Boys

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So it’s better to slash the numbers of police, prison officers, nurses, firefighters, take money away from special needs education and social care then lie about having done it.

Slashing police numbers, privatising the probation service has directly resulted in deaths in London.

There are quite a few Labour peers who are on the rich list.

At least 7 millionaires in the Shadow cabinet.

Is this the same party that stands for " share and share alike ?"
Everyone on an equal footing ?