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Prince Phillip

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Anniebach Fri 20-Dec-19 14:27:20

Was taken from Sandringham to Edward 7th hospital ,London for observation in relation to a pre existing condition.

Anniebach Fri 20-Dec-19 18:46:25

She will still be the monarch if Charles was prince regent

Urmstongran Fri 20-Dec-19 18:54:01

Oh I didn’t realise that Anniebach. Well I suppose it’s a halfway-house type of situation. Gives Charles the opportunity to step up to the plate a little more. Probably a good thing for both of them.

Anniebach Fri 20-Dec-19 19:08:32

George 3rd son was prince regent but George was still the monarch .

Charles can only be king if the queen abdicates or when she dies,

sodapop Fri 20-Dec-19 20:32:51

I think Buckingham Palace issued a statement to say the Queen would not be standing down in favour of Charles Urmstongran

Urmstongran Fri 20-Dec-19 20:53:40

Oh. Sorry I didn’t realise.
? fake news then.

NotTooOld Fri 20-Dec-19 22:26:02

I wonder if HM reads GN? I doubt she'd be chuffed to read all these posts predicting PP's end and her own. As for PC, I bet he's dreading it.

Tangerine Fri 20-Dec-19 22:30:14

Perhaps she posts on Gransnet!!!!

NotTooOld Fri 20-Dec-19 22:35:22

Tangerne - perhaps she does. What name does she use, do you think? grin

Tangerine Fri 20-Dec-19 22:38:42

I don't know but I think Madge would be a good one.

Calendargirl Sat 21-Dec-19 07:02:10

Queenie 2
I’m In Charge
Lillibet (bit obvious)
Charlie’s Mum

BradfordLass72 Sat 21-Dec-19 07:10:37

According to our media, he was flown to hospital by helicopter.
The poor old Queen went by train, emergin on the platform surrounded by commuters and looking very bundled up.

I felt for her as the first steps seemed a bit shaky after her long sit-down; I know that feeling. smile

www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/118387672/prince-philip-98-admitted-to-hospital-in-london

Calendargirl Sat 21-Dec-19 07:21:40

He didn’t go by helicopter- he went in a royal car and according to BP walked into hospital himself!

CarlyD7 Sat 21-Dec-19 09:20:59

I'm sorry to speak ill of someone who so clearly is, but I've never read a single thing about Phil the Greek (as my Dad used to call him) which made me think he was a good person. Did he even love Elizabeth when he married her? He was the Queen's first and only boyfriend, and he was pushed into marrying her by his uncle, Lord Mountbatten. Rumours of his infidelity were rife for decades. He bullied Charles, and who knows about the others. Every time he opened his mouth, on public engagements, he put his foot in it (possibly deliberately - passive aggression is not pleasant). They clearly have led very separate lives for decades, and certainly separate bedrooms (as we found out in 1982 when a burglar broke into Buck Palace and ended up sitting on the Queen's bed!) No doubt the Queen will shed a tear when he goes but I would be very surprised if "the nation" did.

MiniDriver56 Sat 21-Dec-19 09:21:00

PP is 98 and is doing well. Sounds like the bladder infection he has before. I’m sure the Queen will know all there is to know, any immediate urgency she will be whisked to be with him. At 98 it’s expected he will have ailments.

sodapop Sat 21-Dec-19 09:29:19

Bit harsh Carly my husband & I have separate bedrooms but this does not mean we love each other any less. As for the rest of it most families are not perfect and I would not like to live my life constantly in the public eye.
Just redressing the balance a little you understand.

ReadyMeals Sat 21-Dec-19 09:53:05

From reading memoirs from people who played with the Queen as children, and biographies, it seems the Queen has always been personally a person who likes rules and routine. I don't think we can assume that she'd have had to stick to her plan to travel to Sandringham that day just because she's the Queen. I bet even if she'd been Mrs Fred Bloggs she would have stuck to her plans if Mr Bloggs had been taken to hospital smile Always assuming that Mr Bloggs was the same type of person as Philip who also doesn't like a fuss made over him and wouldn't complain that she's not there settling him into hospital. Put the two together and you can see why they always "just carry on as usual". I doubt if this would have happened when it's William and Kate in that position.

As to the waffle the palace are coming out with, it kind of doesn't make sense. "Planned"? Yeah like an hour or so before the journey maybe. No one plans days in advance to leave the city your family are just arriving in, just on the day they arrive, in order to spend the runup to xmas and possibly the day itself, in hospital. "Pre-existing"? Well yes of course. No one gets admitted to hospital on the grounds they might get a disease sometime in the future. The palace are masters at empty words that sound as if they are conveying information! However there is a caveat... A VIP like Philip could certainly tweak ones "planned" hospital stay to cover a period when members of the family he doesn't want to deal with are about to arrive. Andrew... and possibly the Queen insisted on inviting Sarah also, to cheer him up... Philip's been in hospital over xmas before, and from what I remember from that time, he didn't mind one little bit!

SirChenjin Sat 21-Dec-19 09:58:21

CarlyD7 I couldn’t agree more.

wicklowwinnie Sat 21-Dec-19 10:02:11

Thank you Carly, for your post. It's nice to read someone saying things as they really are. We have to listen to so much waffle and pretence. None of us know how things really are in other people's lives. It must be very hard to live in the public eye all the time. We all know what nosy neighbours are like, I am sure, and it is the same thing on a wider scale for the Royal family.

Anniebach Sat 21-Dec-19 10:09:21

They cannot be compared with other married couples, an
arranged marriage, and from day 1 , duty first.

The queen mother wasn’t sleeping with the king , he died in the night and she was informed of his death.

He has had to walk in her shadow, they both accept this.

They seem to have a very close relationship .

Annaram1 Sat 21-Dec-19 10:12:47

I expect the food he gets in hospital will be just as good as the meals at Sandringham. He has done better than most ordinary people who were born in the same year, and most are gone now. They suffered a lot of privations during the war and he never did. I doubt there will be many tears when he drops off the perch.

4allweknow Sat 21-Dec-19 10:16:00

I thought it was a planned admission which I guess would mean in this instance that Dr had arranged it albeit at short notice without it being treated as an A & E type. Also read he went to local hospital at Norfolk. Must have been moved to London. Had there been any likelihood of a serious situation developing the Queen would be made well aware.

ReadyMeals Sat 21-Dec-19 10:16:34

It is not the Queen's constitutional duty to travel to Sandringham on a particular day. This decision to stick to plans is something the Queen and Philip have chosen to do as individuals based on their own personalities. If this had been any other of the royal couples - for example Kate and William - even when they come to the throne, they will have their own ways of handling family sickness. Remember Queen Victoria and how she was for a long time after her husband's death? That was down to who she was as an individual. I don't think our own Queen would have been the same had Philip died young, I think she would have been back on duty straight after the funeral. Even monarchs are individuals and their staff and advisers work with their personalities to make their plans.

JenniferEccles Sat 21-Dec-19 10:17:23

I have always liked him.
My theory is his so called gaffs were a way to put people at ease when they met the Queen.

He would have seen all the nervous looking faces and so he got into the habit of cracking jokes to put people at ease.

Of course in these politically correct days his jokes were deemed to be racist

inkcog Sat 21-Dec-19 10:18:37

Carly, agree. He isn't a kind person.

inkcog Sat 21-Dec-19 10:21:45

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