Ryanair's 'Racist' Comments

BUT immigration REALLY was mobbed.

Several passengers flying to Ireland missed their plane, the exit immigration queues were so long.

1) Watch the video.

2) I couldn't agree more about being safe on a plane. Do all the checks they want. Scans. Searches. Pat downs. I don't care.

I rather to be safe on a plane so I'd prefer more checks on everyone. BTY, Islam is a religion open to anyone so you can't make racist comments about it as it's not a race!

I might have known Brexit would have to enter the discussion. I’m off to do something worthwhile. I find reading this nonsense depressing.

You are missing the point, tickingbird. It was a comment made WAY down the thread by another poster. Not you.

I fly monthly (I am ashamed to admit it. TERRIBLE for the environment). The biggest queue I've faced this year has been to get through immigration in a non EU country (in AND out). Exactly what we will have to come once we're completely out of Europe.

What is the problem? Why is the label racist attached to anyone that mentions muslim extremists. Do you Gagajo deny their existence? Do you deny they are the cause of all the delays and extra searching at airports across the world? Arr you really that blinkered?

Disputes the 'Islamophobia is not racism' argument.

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" remainer" groan. It's so tedious.

Last time I travelled on a plane, it was the oldies who were being body searched due to hip and knee replacements. Made me laugh. I don't care who they search as long as we can all fly safely.

You've got to admit, Boris makes an VERY big/easy target with amount of idiocy he gets up to/says.

I always thought they ended up Boris, Cummings or Brexit bashing by remainers strange that ?

I love the way well meaning threads on Gransnet ALWAYS end up with bigots on them. It's tiring, all the adhering to the stereotype of the elderly.

scruffy men are a risk? Really?

And what if he is a white Muslim? Plenty of them around.
How would you even know he WAS Muslim?

A hi jacker would need to have the means to carry out a hijack. ie knives, scissors, anything sharp which could be used as a weapon. That’s what all the searching is about. Surely nobody disputes the fact that all this removing of clothing, shoes, xray scanners etc. is down to muslim extremists?

Why is a single Muslim man likely to be threat?

But someone may accuse me of misandry!

One has to be so careful on GN.

And at the risk of sounding sexist, far more men than women involved.

It's not sexist to tell the truth.

First of all, "muslim" isn't a race. That said, the comments by O'Leary were, I think, deliberately provocative.

I've been trying to think how (or if) one actually could tell of 'terrorist intent' or the risk thereof say, hypothetically, by the glint in a person's eye, whether it would be ethical to target people with the glint (i.e. pull out and check over more thoroughly than those without that glint). I think it would be ethical in the same way as we target disease risks with vaccinations, or putting people with high risks of other medical complications (heart disease, stroke, etc) on medication to reduce their risk.

What I'm arguing is that approaching terrorism risk using mathematical probability, based on up-to-date information, would not, I think, be unethical—always providing such a method could be devised.

I think O'Leary's point was that, as he understands it, the greatest risk of terrorist offences at the moment comes from extreme Islamists and so, statistically speaking, from his point of view, it would make sense to check more in that demographic than others.

Admittedly, such an approach doesn't look good and it's hard to see how, even if it were probabilistically targetted, most people could be persuaded of its 'fairness'.

Welshwife not much jewellery, no, probably just a watch and a ring.

And at the risk of sounding sexist, far more men than women involved.

Oh, I thought it was in general.
In fact the list goes back years and all types of people have been involved.

So how do you select people who are potential hi-jackers? And actually the number of successful bombs on aircraft is minimal. Which makes you wonder what on earth is going on. Still it's a really good way of controlling crowds at airports.

oldgimmer and yehbut I agree with you.
In the rush to be ‘woke’ we must not forget the fact that most bombings and attacks now, in airports/planes / anywhere else
Classed as terror related ( as opposed to crime) are carried out by Muslims.It’s a simple fact.

Hi jackers, bombs on aircraft - same difference. The talk is about aircraft safety and MO singling out muslim men not specifically bombs on aircraft a la Lockerbie.